The proper stream could not be found - yet it plays just fine

michael-harrison wrote on 11/18/2020, 11:18 AM

Never seen this before and I've been using MagicYUV for quite some time. Most often without audio but several with, too.

The project loads and all the media play without a problem but every time I open the project I get this message. Every single time. No matter what changes I make.

Ring any bells for anyone? VP 17-452

General
Complete name                            : E:\Vegas Projects (e)\OLLI - Ann Karson Apartheid\Ann Karson Apartheid Merge.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 105 GiB
Duration                                 : 21 min 6 s
Overall bit rate                         : 715 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : M8Y0
Codec ID                                 : M8Y0
Duration                                 : 21 min 6 s
Bit rate                                 : 713 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 3.587
Stream size                              : 105 GiB (100%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71
Duration                                 : 21 min 6 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 232 MiB (0%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 999 ms (23.96 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration             : 1000 ms

Comments

john_dennis wrote on 11/18/2020, 1:09 PM

Out of curiosity, how many streams does Vegas Pro detect in the file?

Right + click on the file and display Properties.

Example:

michael-harrison wrote on 11/18/2020, 2:29 PM

@john_dennis 2 though the audio stream information looks a bit odd. I'm using the latest MagicYUV 2.3.1

General
Name: Ann Karson Apartheid Merge.avi
Folder: E:\Vegas Projects (e)\OLLI - Ann Karson Apartheid
Type: MagicYUV AVI
Size: 110.49 GB (113,141,969,400 bytes)
Created: Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 5:38:42 PM
Modified: Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 5:56:44 PM
Accessed: Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 3:23:33 PM
Attributes: Archive

Streams
Video: 00:21:06.056, 23.976 fps progressive, 3840x2160x12, MagicYUV 8-bit YUV 4:2:0
Audio: 00:21:06.056, 48000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, MagicYUV 8-bit YUV 4:2:0

Other metadata
Regions/markers: no
Command markers: no

Media manager
Media tags: no

Plug-In
Name: magicyuvplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\magicyuvplug
Format: MagicYUV
Version: 1.0.0.0
Company: INNOMAGIC Bt.

john_dennis wrote on 11/18/2020, 3:47 PM

@michael-harrison

I rendered from the same Magic YUV plug-in setting as you with these results:

General
  Name: PQ Source - Medium Complexity.avi
  Folder: C:\Users\John\Desktop\Render
  Type: MagicYUV AVI
  Size: 667.35 MB (683,368,792 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 1:44:42 PM
  Modified: Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 1:44:48 PM
  Accessed: Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 1:44:48 PM
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 00:00:29.997, 29.970 fps progressive, 1920x1080x12, MagicYUV 8-bit YUV 4:2:0
  Audio: 00:00:29.997, 48000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, MagicYUV 8-bit YUV 4:2:0

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: magicyuvplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\magicyuvplug
  Format: MagicYUV 
  Version: 1.0.0.0
  Company: INNOMAGIC Bt.

michael-harrison wrote on 11/18/2020, 3:50 PM

@john_dennis It's odd. I'm tempted to ignore it and keep going but with my luck I'd get to the end of my editing and find out this, whatever it is, will cause total failure and I'll have to start over. Except that this is just an intermediate file I'm working with so generating a new one in a different format won't kill anything.

Musicvid wrote on 11/18/2020, 4:21 PM

I actually have seen something "similar" -- it turned out audio was float instead of integer, but didn't seem to affect anything.

john_dennis wrote on 11/18/2020, 7:36 PM

While working on another problem, I was presented with this:

I also noticed that when using Magic YUV RGBA for transparent animation, reversing the video makes the video disappear.

It's probably time to engage with Magic YUV support.

john_dennis wrote on 11/18/2020, 11:42 PM

@michael-harrison @MagicYUV

Further testing with Magic YUV RGBA revealed that Vegas 13-453 through 15-416 does not see the audio track at all. Those versions do allow me to reverse the video track without going blank because the "Media is offline".

Vegas 17-452 sees the audio track but when I reverse the video track, the media goes offline.

Download the file that I used from here for testing:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jd-b9keV-1YOL8wciSEPoI2WbxnAYATL/view?usp=sharing

EDIT:

Uncompressed AVI works properly.

michael-harrison wrote on 11/19/2020, 6:27 AM

@john_dennis I've posted the question on their forum. I'll keep everyone updated.

MagicYUV wrote on 11/19/2020, 7:33 AM

As I see there are two issues here, one is by @michael-harrison which is a warning dialog when opening the project, which causes no issues and the file plays correctly, it's just annoying. Is that correct?

The other issue is by @john_dennis where reversing the file causes it to go offline. It seems I can reproduce this.

michael-harrison wrote on 11/19/2020, 8:05 AM

@MagicYUV for my issue, yes. So far, just annoying.

MagicYUV wrote on 11/19/2020, 8:14 AM

@michael-harrison Do you have a sample to share which exhibits this issue, so I can take a look?

michael-harrison wrote on 11/19/2020, 8:46 AM

@MagicYUV I do... https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qN-c97hhuFDa_sXqNy08jIm2_IQQFiRy/view?usp=sharing

Should be able to replicate by creating a new project, adding this video, saving, closing the project and when you re-open you should get the message above.

MagicYUV wrote on 11/19/2020, 5:08 PM

@michael-harrison Thanks, the warning shows for me as well, but to be honest I have no clue why. If I re-encode the video to 1920*1080 then the warning doesn't show, but using any other resolution it shows. Removing the audio track also makes the warning go away.

I have no idea why Vegas considers the media "changed", it seems I have to ask them for more details.

MagicYUV wrote on 11/27/2020, 7:39 PM

@john_dennis I'll also take a look at what could be causing the reverse issue. It has something to do with the plugin obviously, it seems reversing causes Vegas to open the file twice, which shouldn't be an issue, yet it seems somewhere something causes Vegas to think it fails.