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JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:08 AM

@John-McKean AFAIK. I think you should be able to render out to FHD 16:9 using non square pixels, change your Project properties to PAR of 1.333, or render settings to match.

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:15 AM

thx, my goal is rendering 4:3 1440x1080

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:21 AM

@John-McKean Ok, I just now changed the render template "frame size" to HDV 1080 (1440 x 1080) and it renders out aok to 1440 x 1080 AR of 1.333. Source is HDV 1440 x 1080 AR of 1.333.

Am using VP17 to test as this old project is in VP17. Tested on VP18 now, same good result.

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:31 AM

thx, very odd, all setting correct but renders to 16:9 1352x762

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:32 AM

@John-McKean Is your source true HDV 1440 x 1080 AR 1.33, if not can you post mediainfo.

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:51 AM

It's strange, the first project I did with these video files rendered out fine at 1440 4:3, and the second project with the same source file and settings now I can't get it to render do 1440 and 4:3 aspect ratio. Even when I put another 1440 file in the first project that rendered out correctly, it still renders out 16:9 at a lower resolution. it will render out correctly to 1080 when I choose 1080 16:9 codec but that's not the original file spec or ratio. Attached is the video file specs

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 7:53 AM

@John-McKean The "Allow source to adjust frame size" in the render template will cause you to have odd output frame sizes. When I use that for a 1440 x 1080 output it becomes 1648 x 928 = AR of 1.78.

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JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:04 AM

@John-McKean Well, with those data rates and frame rates, your source is not standard HDV for sure. The internal settings of Display Aspect Ratio might be different. Anyway here is a sample "Mediainfo" screenshot of standard HDV footage.

Can you supply similar using the "Mediainfo" Util.

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:06 AM

"Allow source to adjust frame size is not selected.

RogerS wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:12 AM

Not sure if the NVIDIA encoder can do that. For testing purposes, try switching encode mode to Mainconcept with the rest of the settings unchanged?

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:13 AM

Not sure if the NVIDIA encoder can do that. For testing purposes, try switching encode mode to Mainconcept with the rest of the settings unchanged?

I used Nvenc only for my tests in this thread.

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Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:16 AM

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:20 AM

@John-McKean Can you supply the full length screenshot. A sample download clip would be ideal for users to test.

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Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:27 AM

non nvidia doesnt work either

John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:30 AM

it rendered correctly first project

John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:31 AM

all other attempts failed. How best to get you a downloaded sample?

John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:35 AM

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:38 AM

all other attempts failed. How best to get you a downloaded sample?

@John-McKean I use dropbox, there are other options of course. When you upload the file give a link here. I originally assumed because of the frame size that it was HDV, but it’s obviously not. Maybe we can recreate the issue and supply a fix to the output using the source test clip.

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Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

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JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:42 AM

I wonder if that should say Fox hunt?

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Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:46 AM

I'll dropbox it. it is a fox hunt

John-McKean wrote on 7/22/2021, 8:51 AM

By the way, I have a broken wrist so my typing is very awkward using one hand. Thanks for your patience

Musicvid wrote on 7/22/2021, 9:04 AM

1440x1080 4:3 is not HDV.

Therefore, it is not 1.333 PAR. It is, by definition, 1.0 PAR.

Therefore, do not use the HDV template to create 1440x1080 4:3 video..

JN- wrote on 7/22/2021, 9:21 AM

@John-McKean Ok, I rendered out a 10 s section to 1440 x 1080 AR 1.33. Output FPS was to 25, then 18, still ok.

 

Render template used ...

I left the project properties as detected by VP ...

These are the Media properties as detected by VP18 ..

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Copies Video Converts Audio to AAC, link to zip here.

Convert 2 Lossless, link to ZIP here.

Convert Odd 2 Even (frame size), link to ZIP here

Benchmarking Continued thread + link to zip here

Codec Render Quality tables zip

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