Vegas Pro 17 GPU acceleration CPU choking issue

Deata wrote on 4/10/2020, 8:14 AM

So, first of all i have to say i have never managed to get gpu acceleration of video processing to work without issues in any version of vegas pro and i have yet again ran into an issue where the ultimatum seems to be to turn off gpu acceleration and just forget it.

For the first time i actually managed to get gpu acceleration working without vegas pro becoming extremely volatile and prone to crashing.. but i have a new issue, first of all the my 1080ti doesn't actually seem to offer (at least to my eye) any significant performance increase compared to the cpu (though i have quite a beefy cpu, 1950x threadripper) but there should be at least somewhat of a noticable difference don't you agree?

Now the second more serious issue is that now that i have gpu acceleration enabled, whenever i restart vegas/open a project it for some reason completely chokes my cpu without doing anything at least that i can see.

My cpu usage skyrockets to around 40% on ALL THREADS and this is just when doing nothing, this usually lasts around 2-5 minutes if i don't do anything and the issue is that i can't do anything because it absolutely tanks performance.

My 1080ti and a 16c/32t threadripper cant handle a single stream of h264 1080p video above draft(quarter) preview preset and even that plays like crap.

Cpu usage when playing media at quarter of a draft resolution hovers around 60% so before anyone says that it must be a bottleneck on my part that's like saying Og doom running 4 fps on an Xbox One X is a bottleneck issue.

So because vegas crashes a lot and takes already forever to get things running ( not counting the waiting time when first trying to search for an effect etc etc) adding another 5 minutes every time i have to restart or nest a clip is unacceptable.

If you have any suggestions they would be appreciated as i'm at my wits end.

The only solution i can figure out currently that works is to just forget gpu acceleration.

I have been a vegas user for 10 years with over 5000 counted hours in usage time so i'm really desperate for a solution as i DO NOT want to switch programs.

My pc specs in case they are needed to help solve issue:

Gpu: Nvidia 1080Ti + Nvidia 980 (Driver version: 445.75 Game ready because cant be arsed with editing installers every time to enable studio driver support on 980)

Cpu: Amd 1950x Threadripper (temp max at 71c when 100% usage for extended periods of time, usually hovers around 30-40c when using vegas)

Ram: 64gb Corsair 3000Mhz Ddr4

Motherboard: Asus Zenith Extreme (Bios version 1601)

Storage: m.2 250gb for system, usb-c 3.1 500gb ssd for project media and project files

and 22tb of hdd space for archives.

Comments

j-v wrote on 4/10/2020, 9:16 AM

There must be something wrong with your installation or settings, because on my laptop from signature with a little weaker GTX 1050 4K AVC files previeuw fluent in Preview full, look

Start with the latest Nvidia Studio driver to install and what are your settings at Preferences/ File I/O?

michael-harrison wrote on 4/10/2020, 9:55 AM

Maybe do a clean of the driver installation after removing the 980 and see if you can use the 1080 by itself?

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Deata wrote on 4/10/2020, 11:40 AM

Maybe do a clean of the driver installation after removing the 980 and see if you can use the 1080 by itself?

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Tbh disabling the second gpu that's not used by vegas is a nogo solution as much of my work includes 3d rendering and i use gpu renderers which utilise both gpus.

So removing the 980 would slow down my work even more than this glitch and thus if that's the solution it would not be worth it.

Deata wrote on 4/10/2020, 11:42 AM

There must be something wrong with your installation or settings, because on my laptop from signature with a little weaker GTX 1050 4K AVC files previeuw fluent in Preview full, look

Start with the latest Nvidia Studio driver to install and what are your settings at Preferences/ File I/O?

Here are my file I/O settings

michael-harrison wrote on 4/10/2020, 11:42 AM

@Deata well, if you've got the time, it would be good information to have if it's truly the case that VP isn't happy with those two cards.

If you've got slightly less time just trying a complete clean and driver reinstall might be what you need.

Deata wrote on 4/10/2020, 12:09 PM

@Deata well, if you've got the time, it would be good information to have if it's truly the case that VP isn't happy with those two cards.

If you've got slightly less time just trying a complete clean and driver reinstall might be what you need.

Yeah i'm gonna try and see if doing a clean install solves the problem and then removing the second card to test if the first solution doesn't work

j-v wrote on 4/10/2020, 12:18 PM

@Deata I see @michael-harrison is helping you so I get out of thisand will not interfere.
Have luck with a solution.

michael-harrison wrote on 4/10/2020, 12:45 PM

@Deata have you also tried disabling opencl integration? That had some benefit for me before I tried (learned about) a clean driver uninstall

Musicvid wrote on 4/10/2020, 9:22 PM

Maybe time for a dedicated editing box?

Deata wrote on 4/11/2020, 1:41 AM

Maybe time for a dedicated editing box?

Not really interested in spending over 3000€ just to enable gpu acceleration, no use in having a separate computer for 3d and another one for editing as i only use one software at a time anyways.

If your car has a flat tire is the solution to buy a second car?

Deata wrote on 4/11/2020, 1:49 AM

@Deata have you also tried disabling opencl integration? That had some benefit for me before I tried (learned about) a clean driver uninstall

Hmm i only saw options for opencl stuff related to intel gpu:s so is this option in the hidden preferences?

michael-harrison wrote on 4/11/2020, 10:35 AM

@Deata exactly so. Hold shift while bringing up the prefs and in the Internal panel search for opencl and change the opencl/gl interop to false

Deata wrote on 4/18/2020, 11:56 AM

@Deata exactly so. Hold shift while bringing up the prefs and in the Internal panel search for opencl and change the opencl/gl interop to false

Sadly this didn't solve the issue.

Only way the issue stopped was turning off gpu acceleration completely