Don’t have an answer for you, but am I seeing under 16gb free space on the working drive? Also, I note that your source footage is 60.00fps and your project/render is 59.94. Try rendering at 60.00.

Thank you for the suggestions! I changed the working drive to my other drive (D Drive) that has a lot more space on it (500 GB). I also adjusted the 59.94 to 60.00. Unfortunately, I am still experiencing no change in speed. Average speed is showing 2.5 FPS right now.

Is this the format of your video, small facecam watching game?

If so, do you add feathering to your facecam mask? It tanks the playback speed, and render speed halved, It still renders at 30fps though

Playback with feathering 20fps, feathering disabled 60fps. That's just Vegas, but you mention transcoding of your source file is extremely slow too, no editing or fx. I did not find that to be true so must be more to your problem

@kaylaalg Hi, this post had a video clip similar 3840 x 1080, basically you have to cut your video into two 1920 x 1080 (16:9) halves (no other cuts or edits), render each one out as 1920 x 1080, then reimport those two 16:9 halves as you would normally,

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/rendering-freezing-at-frame-before-crossfades--134997/#ca843169

The way your doing it, doubling up that clip, selecting half in each track & trying to edit it you're messing with Vegas's head, if you cut it in half as i suggest above, you'll have two regular sized 16:9 events on two tracks & should be able edit without problems,

@Former user Do you experience the same slow down? With 2 tracks 1 being face cam(no mask feather), 1 being game, I get 60fps render speed. So they may have something they can fix, unless you can see a problem with their hardware, such as their GPU, Was their any consensus as to what caused the slow down in the other thread?

@Former user I don't use this face cam stuff, in the other thread he also had green screen going on the half with him in, I think even if this OP isn't using green screen it's good practice to render out the two halves into separate 16:9 clips rather than trying to double the same wide event,

@Former user @kaylaalg If someone provides a clip i'll have a go, but my pc is no comparison to others, @Former user I don't remember what pc you have as it's not in your signature?

@Former user They have provided a link https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AJC7Kyj6LXJ8DaY&cid=37508FED449253D7&id=37508FED449253D7%2170738&parId=37508FED449253D7%2165135&o=OneUp

Look at their original message if that link doesn't work. They want efficiency , 1 track duplicated, 1 game, 1 face cam the way I did. If I don't use feathering for the facecam this is a reasonable approach, feathering doubles render time. This still doesn't account for how slow their render is

@Former user Thanks, still waking up, missed that bold blue writing in the OP 🥱😂

@daniel-t Hi, I've used Pan/Crop to select each half, then Track Motion to position the OP in the corner, nothing else added, this is how it looks at the mo, got to do some work now but i'll have a play with this later,

I'll have a go using Mask later, with & without feathering, 👍

project 1920x1080 60fps - playback 60fps no prob

render Magix AVC 1920x1080 60fps. I just changed one of the defaults to 60f

Source file OK

Project OK

RenderTemplate OK

That GTX 1050ti bad

PC konfig problemaitc

PS: The other GTX is also bad, I mistook it for RTX2060 super.

Try disabling so4 and see how it goes.

Also, Gaussian Blur is a resource hog.

@Former user Haven't gone to work yet, 😂

Slightly different approach,

Mask to select the OP,

Then pan/crop to position

Playback at 60fps no prob,

render same as before

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A slight feather on the mask around the OP increased GPU usage & render time by about 1/3

@Former user @kaylaalg

OK i rendered the two halves out separately as 1920x1080s

each took about 16mins to render

I then put those on the timeline, selected one half with Pan/Crop & positioned with track motion, render 9.05, quicker but time added rendering out the two separate clips,

I then added a mask with a feather to select the OP

& positioned using Pan/Crop

Render took 23mins, bit faster than the 40min using the orig duplicate tracks with a feather, but again time has to be added for the rendering of the two into two separate 1920x1080 clips,

I decided to mess this up a bit with some cuts & crossfades,

I took the two 1920x1080 rendered clips, selected with a feathered mask & positioned the OP with Pan/Crop chopped them up & added random crossfades, Made a project 10mins long, render took 9.57mins

I went back to the duplicated orig tracks, selected & positioned using Pan/Crop & a feathered mask, messed them up a bit with cuts & crossfades,

orig rendering looked interesting v high GPU, min CPU usage,

But rendering slowed to a crawl, 1hr estimated,

Final render 1hr .03 secs maxing out my GPU most of the way until the end after the crossfades

So i stand by my orig comment, spend the time to create 2 separate 16:9 clips,

Hi everyone, thank you for all of the comments and suggestions. And thank you to the folks who used my sample file in their own Vegas Pro software and tested out some things.

I'll clarify what my edits are in case that helps. I do reaction & watch-along content for YouTube and Patreon. This file in particular is a Patreon video that is edited in watch-along format. For copyright reasons, I obviously cannot show the media that I'm watching or have the audio playing, which is the purpose of the blur over the file (and the audio is completely removed). The blur allows my viewers to reasonably tell where I am at any given point in case they have to pause things on their end, then they can easily sync back up with me. I have a timer up as well, but I've had feedback that having the media up as well with the blur over top is still a big help for them. I used to not have the media at all and folks found it difficult to tell where I was. Here's a screenshot of how that looks.

@Musicvid I removed gaussian blur from my edit and disabled so4 like you suggested and doing this was SUCH a huge help. My render speed increased to 60fps and it looks like the render would take between 60-90 minutes to complete, which is what I expect based on my PC specs, and what I've experienced with Filmora. So now my question is: is there a different type of blur that I can use that isn't a resource hog? I noticed that Vegas Pro has a few different blurs, but I just defaulted to gaussian blur. I use blurs in Filmora without issue, so I'm really surprised that ONE effect would be the cause of a render slowing down so much.

@Former user I appreciate you testing this out for me. I used to do separate 1920x1080 files when I first started this until some friends told me about the recording in 3840x1080 trick and just cropping it in editing. Filmora handles this beautifully and it makes things much easier for me. To have to go back to that, or rather take an extra rendering step, is not ideal and something I don't want to do. Thankfully, it appears the blur effect was the main culprit as rendering without that (but still having the two 3840x1080 files) brought the time down to a reasonable time for me.

@Yelandkeil I do not have the ability to upgrade my GPU's right now, but good to know that I have "bad" GPU's. Your feedback has been a huge help.

This problem is because Gaussian blur uses the GPU, which is a good thing, but not if you have a weak GPU. Try some other blurs or other methods to obscure

@kaylaalg just for the sake of mentioning it -

I tried it in MEP, as above just the two orig 3840x1080 clips duplicated, section on one to select the OP. section on the other track to select the video,

Vegas render in pics above 27 mins, MEP - export 12mins,

I chopped up those 2 orig 3840x1080 clips & added random crossfades to make a 10min project

exported in 6.5mins

There's no feathering in MEP around the section that selects the OP, so i rendered the Vegas 10min version again with transitions but with no feather around the mask,

Rendered in 58mins, so not much faster than the one earlier with the feathered mask that rendered in 1hr.03secs

This was with no feathering on the mask

@Former user People sure get their money's worth with you when they provide some media for others to simulate a project. It's a good approach and removes the guess work

PnP+LinearBlur

This problem is because Gaussian blur uses the GPU, which is a good thing, but not if you have a weak GPU. Try some other blurs or other methods to obscure

I'll try out the other blurs and see how the speed goes. I appreciate the reply!

@Former user I've never used MEP before, but I may give it a try after seeing this. Thanks again for the work you've put in to help me out and show me some different options. I echo what @Former user said in the comment above.

@Yelandkeil Thank you! Going to try Linear Blur.

@Former user People sure get their money's worth with you when they provide some media for others to simulate a project. It's a good approach and removes the guess work

@Former user 😂👍 I'm lucky enough to have a pc that can render in a shorter time than others, i remember in the past waiting 10+mins just to render out a 1min test sample, hit render & it looks like nothing is happening & so those test never get done,

The one that surprised me was the 10min clip, with the feather on the mask 1hr, without the feather 55mins, i thought it was going to be quicker without 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

I'm procrastinating, i've 100 clips to edit for my own vids but just can't get my arse in gear to do it 🕺😂

@kaylaalg MEP layout interface works in a similar way to Vegas but is a much more basic program, really basic controls & basic built in fxs but it has amazing render speed, 3x that of Vegas & preview playback res is good,

I read your earlier comment after posting my comment above, so i exported that 10min clip of your orig file, added a blur to the video, MEP exported it in 19mins, Vegas without a blur took 55mins so i'm not even going to try that one, you know what the result of that would be 😂

@Former user Oh gosh, yep I do know. 😂 Also, I was not using feathering on my files, at least I don't think I was? I'm not sure how I would check that.

I am really intrigued by MEP because learning how to edit in Vegas Pro, I honestly really enjoyed the controls, the layout, etc. It's this darn rendering time that is a turn-off for me. I'm currently exporting this full edit now in Filmora so that I can get it out for my patrons, and in 14 mins it was already at 37% (video length is 1h 13m). This is with full blurs, cuts, transitions, etc. It's something that I just don't want to go backwards on. Just want a better program to use where rendering is either faster or the same amount of time as what I'm used to. 😅

Thanks again!