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Musicvid wrote on 10/18/2017, 3:33 PM

Since then, NeatVideo has introduced a plugin that can be used in Vegas.

Its still considered on of the best cleanup tools.

There are still some vhs->dvd decks around, and they do quite a nice job with tape noise, as well.

robert-b8452 wrote on 10/18/2017, 7:10 PM

Thanks, Musicvid

I realize now that I shot these in very poor lighting conditions. There is very little color, it’s dark and grainy. Just as a guess, what I’ll need to improve them is:

·         An 8mm vhs->dvd deck

·         Vegas Pro 15 (downloaded free from CNET)

·         NeatVideo plugin that can be used in Vegas (where can I get that?)

 

And here’s a list of filters that were cited in the 2003 discussions. Should any of these be used, and how?

·         VirtualDub

·         AVISynth noise reduction filter

·         Peachsmoother noise reduction filter

·         Dust noise reduction filter

·         SpotRemover temporal cleaner

·         Flaxen VHS plugin (combination of several filters (chroma, temporal denoise, spatial denoise, and more))

·         Video DeNoise plugin (http://www.risingresearch.com/en/denoise/index.shtml)

·         VirtualDub to clean up VHS captures

·         Dynamic Noise Reduction

·         DeNoise plugin

·         NRS (TS 6-10-100) plugin

 

I’ll bet that many of these are obsolete, so what’s the current (hopefully free) software that would be recommended today?

As you can tell, I really am a novice on this. What I’ll need is a step-by-step of what to use and how to use it.

 

VolumetricMedia wrote on 10/18/2017, 7:22 PM

The absolute best audio cleanup (if that is part of your requirements) I find is a very experienced SpectraLayers users with that software. It takes some advanced tinkering to get better results than other noise reduction plugins - but with advanced tinkering in place: nothing I've seen comes close.

robert-b8452 wrote on 10/18/2017, 8:09 PM

Thanks, VolumetricMedia; I do need to also clean up the audio. Is there a very experienced SpectraLayers user out there?

Musicvid wrote on 10/18/2017, 10:21 PM

Robert, no matter how important this project is to you, please don't try to make a silk purse out of a pig's ear. VHS is what it is.

robert-b8452 wrote on 10/18/2017, 10:47 PM

Rest assured that I have no unrealistic expectations about this project. I will be satisfied that a reasonable amount of work will turn barely recognizable figures into recognizable figures; not an Oscar-winning production. If there's anything the Vegas group can do to help me along that path with the latest, greatest, cheapest and easiest approach, I will be extremely grateful.

Musicvid wrote on 10/18/2017, 10:58 PM

Well golleez, robert.

We haven't seen even a single frame grab from your tape capture, so how could we help you with any of that?

robert-b8452 wrote on 10/18/2017, 11:08 PM

As I said before, I shot these using 30 year old 8mm handycam technology, in very poor lighting conditions, resulting in very little color, dark and grainy. Given that as a typical baseline, what would you and your community do if they were your tapes? Just the basics of hardware, software and methodology. Thanks.

Musicvid wrote on 10/19/2017, 1:33 AM

We would ask to see some frame grabs, Robert.

jay-bee wrote on 10/19/2017, 3:37 AM

I'll second Neat Video although I bought the Virtualdub version as I tend to process files on vdub before exporting out to Vegas (using cineform as an intermediary codec).

 

Read up on qtgmc (used w avisynth) if you plan to make a progressive video. It's the best deinterlacer. I'd recommend Izotope RX over spectral layers personally since it's easier/more straightforward but this is a magix/Sony board.

 

Also make sure you accurately set pixel aspect ratio for your captured files (probably 720*480).

juan_rios wrote on 10/19/2017, 5:49 AM

There is a free program made by French restoration enthusiasts that you should try.

http://contact41766.wixsite.com/film9/home-1

NickHope wrote on 10/19/2017, 6:19 AM

+1 QTGMC. Apart from deinterlacing, it does some denoising by default.

robert-b8452 wrote on 10/19/2017, 10:29 PM

jay_bee, juan_rios & Nick Hope

Thanks for the useful information. I'll look at your recommendations and get back to you with questions, I'm sure.

craftech wrote on 10/20/2017, 7:17 PM

There is a free program made by French restoration enthusiasts that you should try.

http://contact41766.wixsite.com/film9/home-1


That software package installs the K-Lite Codec Pack which many do not recommend be installed.

Musicvid wrote on 10/20/2017, 7:23 PM

It's probably a local, not system codec installation, so not as much worry.

juan_rios wrote on 10/21/2017, 7:39 AM

K-Lite's Installation is optional.