Video and Audio clips don't line up.

OhMyGosh wrote on 5/10/2019, 9:11 PM

I have VMS12, upgraded to 16 but it crashes every few minutes. Just want my darn money back, but that's another story. Anyway, I have imported HQ video clips from my Samsung phone and when I put them on the timeline the audio portion is just a hair longer than the video portion. Does that ring a bell with anyone? Thanks in advance. Cin

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Musicvid wrote on 5/10/2019, 9:15 PM

Yes, it does. But we won't know until you've posted your file properties.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

OhMyGosh wrote on 5/10/2019, 9:51 PM

Good to see you are still around and helping people Musicvid!! I downloaded that 3 times, but I can't find it anywhere on my computer!   :0  I'll keep trying and let you know. Thanks as always. Cin

Edit: When I go into the Zip folder and double click on the icon, the black screen that has the command prompt shows up for literally a millisecond with about a line and a half of writing which I can't read before it disappears... :/ 

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General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Cindy\Desktop\2018 Media for Gym DVD\Latest 5-10-19\20190509_154214.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 25.3 MiB
Duration                                 : 7 s 616 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 27.8 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-09 22:42:23
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-05-09 22:42:23
xyz                                      : +00.0000+000.0000/
com.android.version                      : 9

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=60
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 7 s 487 ms
Bit rate                                 : 28.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.032 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 45.045 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 59.094 FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.229
Stream size                              : 25.0 MiB (99%)
Title                                    : VideoHandle
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-09 22:42:23
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-05-09 22:42:23
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
mdhd_Duration                            : 7487
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 7 s 616 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 238 KiB (1%)
Title                                    : SoundHandle
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-05-09 22:42:23
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-05-09 22:42:23

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Photo included

3POINT wrote on 5/11/2019, 12:51 AM

Video from a Samsung smartphone is always variable framerate. I succesfully edited once a video from my Samsung S8 by importing the Videoclips at projectsframerate. In your case that would mean you first have to setup a 1080p60 NTSC project and than import to that framerate.

If this method doesn't work with your clips, because the difference of your min and max framerate is quite large. You have to convert than your clips to constant framerate first before editing in VMS16, with a tool like Handbrake.

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Musicvid wrote on 5/11/2019, 7:48 AM

Although suggestion #1 sometimes works, as Nick pointed out elsewhere, it is hit-or-miss, and I would probably go for suggestion #2 first.

Or HOS

@OhMyGosh

Nice to see you back as well; as far as being helpful, I've had had a major hearing loss with neuro involvement this year, so my former consistency is now just a WIP, as @vkmast can concur. Humor helps, along with patience and affirmation from dear friends, here on the forum and around the jungle.

OhMyGosh wrote on 5/11/2019, 8:51 AM

     Thank you 3Point for the reply. As Musicvid and some of the other older members know, I'm not the most tech savvy of people! I think I might understand your first suggestion. Couldn't I just match the media properties to get that to work? (which I think I did, but I'll double check) As for the second suggestion, I remember a lot of talk about Handbrake, but have never used it and it's probably too complicated for me, but I guess I could at least go to their website and look around.  

     Thank you as always Musicvid for your response, knowledge, and expertise. At the end of the day, does it really matter that the clips are a little off like that? Would it make a noticeable difference? Really sorry to hear about your health issues as I've come to realize that in the end, our health is all that really matters. I have a copy of Steve Jobs final letter on the subject and I try and start each day by reading it. I hope you have a better day, and thanks again. Cin

Edit: Here are my project settings. Are they correct and the ones I would want to use for best quality and results? The final destination is DVD. Thanks. Cin

3POINT wrote on 5/11/2019, 9:10 AM

This is what I meant:

And this

is an easy to handle alternative for Handbrake, just drop your VFR clips on the interface with settings in red and the software makes decent CFR clips which you can edit in VMS16.

I just see that you want to make a DVD (losing lot of the hires quality of your recording). In that case I would set the project settings also to DVD, because a DVD is interlaced and not progressive. To make interlaced (i60) from progressive (p60) is no problem.

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Chief24 wrote on 5/11/2019, 9:38 AM

Hi OhMyGosh!

From our wonderful "Doc" (Derek Moran, MovieStudioZen) Down Under:

Handbrake Tutorial

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OhMyGosh wrote on 5/11/2019, 9:55 AM

I'm trying really hard not to be dense, so please bear with me. So for a project you are better off setting it to the final format as opposed to working in it's native format and having it changed during rendering? Are these the proper settings in my picture for a good DVD? Should I have that 'Adjust source media to better....' checked? (not sure what it actually means) And finally, wouldn't I want my 'full resolution rendering quality' to be set to 'best' not 'good'? Who doesn't want their project to be the best!? Thank you. Cin

OhMyGosh wrote on 5/11/2019, 9:59 AM

Oh wow, thanks Chief24 that's just what I need!! People talk about that program all the time, but I never knew where to begin. Guess now I do!! Thanks. Cin

3POINT wrote on 5/11/2019, 10:41 AM

Are these the proper settings in my picture for a good DVD? Should I have that 'Adjust source media to better....' checked? (not sure what it actually means) And finally, wouldn't I want my 'full resolution rendering quality' to be set to 'best' not 'good'? Who doesn't want their project to be the best!? Thank you. Cin

Your losing so much quality when downsampling from 1920x1080 (FHD) to 720x480 (SD) that all other quality settings probably make no sense. DVD is just a low quality storage medium from the 20th century, nowadays you can store so much better...

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