Question: how do your project media thumbnails perform with all that media loaded?
@Kinvermark - Good morning! - Just timed it at 51 seconds.
Load quickly?
@Kinvermark - Not sure I can put values to that?
Persistent?
@Kinvermark - They do partially disappear and need to be redrawn. Don't we have a Thumbnail Cache folder? Doesn't that mean once they've been DRAWN, why all the extra time? And the same for loading? It's this I don't and never understood.
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Thanks for testing that on your "monsta" system.
Thumbnail performance is very important for editors! When organizing large quantities of media, this is the foundation upon which bins, storyboarding and nested timelines are built.
IMO, it's OK if it takes a little longer to initially create tham, but they absolutely MUST be stable & persist when projects are reloaded.
I gather this is something quite difficult for the dev's to handle in Vegas, but I think it is so important, and so closely linked with all the great work they have done to improve editing efficiency that they need to get this solved.
"they need to get this solved."
I've been in contact with them about this bug for a while, they are well aware of it and are working on it. Disabling thumbs on the timeline speeds up performance until that issue can get addressed, thumbs in project media will still work fine.
@fr0sty Thanks for letting us know!
My still camera also creates jpegs alongside the CR2 files. I think the jpegs are just fine for a video project as these will likely be downscaled anyway.
@Musicvid Some myths debunked? here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9GaVlJ2KlE
Do take it with a pinch of salt though. Jpegs discussed.
I love V17, but it does appear to have a few kinks in it that need to be resolved and I'm sure they will be.
This is just based on my own recent use of V17 in making 5-15 minute videos.
IMHO, I would say to use 16 just for now.
No debunking needed; I've used lossless jpeg/mpeg compression for decades.
Wrapping one's advertisements in an anecdotal "debunking" video, however, may be as dangerous as serving bunk itself...
My still camera also creates jpegs alongside the CR2 files. I think the jpegs are just fine for a video project as these will likely be downscaled anyway.
@Musicvid - As I move through my Life experience of discovering more and more from this expressive art form, making Video from my different Captured sources, I see different ways of revealing my expression. Coming relatively late to the subtle options of the RAW shoot, I’ve now got even more opportunities than I knew previously. It’s been nothing less than a revelation. There’s greater visual latitude and more of that “organic-vector” than I’d realised than just or only shooting JPEG. And yes, @Musicvid, my SX60 does RAW alongside JPEGs. Having a camera that has a minuscule sensor, so shooting in RAW does allow me to squeeze just a bit more depth and value than solely using JPEG. It’s the way it is!
I’m still learning and experimenting both with RAW and, with respect to my thread here, just what the best, or better, management of the same material in a workflow that doesn’t hobble VP17 and have it crushed under the weight of the size of RAWs. There was also a known restriction of MS7 not allowing my flavour of CR2 incapable of Previewing the shot. So I spent an inordinate amount of time editing in AfterShotPro2 time converting CR2 into TIFFs! Another stupid decision, vis-a-vis VP. Then when I attempted to Import TIFFs it made VP belch, fart and die. Having now got my new PC working WIN10, I was hoping to have a workflow that would just “cope”. I got that wrong too. Also, to add to my amazement, WIN10 now natively Previews my flavour of CR2, with no problems. Who’d have thought?! 😤
What have I learnt? I’m not sure..... But, I’ll tell you what, I’m still gonna keep on experimenting and most like re-re-edit my CR2s and either, in a small way, use one or two CR2s directly into VP17 but the majority will be downsized/downgraded to JPEG. I’ll make my own workbook of CR2 to accompany the video and/or make a complex motion 3d video wall of the CR2s.
"Thanks. As I said, nothing on the Timeline, yet."
I didn't see this before... my fix probably won't help this problem. However, just a shot in the dark, try to disable hover scrub... Maybe that will help? I've noticed it still tried to hover scrub even over still images... no idea if this could help, but the idea popped in my head.
Grazie, are all the images different, or is it a timelapse? I know with my lapses, I do not have this issue, and they are made up of thousands of images, but I also import them as an image sequence as well, so that reduces the thumbnails dramatically.
770 separate pieces of Media.
Should not be too hard to workaround the issue with projects' nesting.
Good call fifonik, I didn't think of that... separate your media into projects, then combine the projects on a master timeline.