what would the ultimate pc be for what i'm trying to do

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Eagle Six wrote on 2/4/2019, 2:37 PM

@right-w If you want to set everything back to defaults, hold down the 'Ctrl+Shift' keys and double left click the Vegas desktop icon. Check the box 'Delete all cached application data', then left click on 'Yes'. This will reset Vegas to the installation default settings and delete the pesky cached application data that can sometimes cause Vegas to do strange things.

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

OldSmoke wrote on 2/4/2019, 3:10 PM

by the way, should the gpu acceleration *always* be set to my 1080?

What is the other option? Intel HDxxx?

Basically you have 3 video streams/sources running at the same time which triple the load on everything; 3 times decoding video for editing is no small fast by any means. Are all 3 videos HD 1080 and at what frame rate and format?

Keep im mind that some video files play better in Vegas then others. Give us more information and we can help.

For example. If you are using a 1920x1080 60p file but actually shrink it to a 1/4 (960x540) and another even smaller, it will be easier on your system to first render the with a lower resolution and easier codec and then bring it into Vegas; or record it at a lower resolution if it’s a screen capture or similar.

As you can see, there are lots of things that can be done.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

AVsupport wrote on 2/4/2019, 8:14 PM

but the moment i change *anything* the prerender is useless.

remember manual p436:

'Because selective prerendering creates multiple files, minor editing on the timeline will not invalidate all of your prerendered video—only the sections you modify will need to be rerendered.'

I don't find above being true in real life. Just shifting an event can just be enough to void the prerender. So I somewhat agree with the assessment.

Unfortunately, the programming core of VP is old and doesn't make full use out of your hardware, no matter how much you throw at it. I have a good rig, don't want to do proxies either, and want to edit in full res with fx applied. I'm running into similar problems as the one's you are experiencing and I shouldn't. Yes this is frustrating. VP is a CPU hog.

Better intelligent background rendering could help improve the situation (have a look at https://www.grassvalley.com/products/edius_pro_9/ )

Try to find plugins that will use the GPU to offload some of the CPU burden. Edit 8-Bit. Welcome to VegasPro Good luck! ;-)

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

fan-boy wrote on 2/4/2019, 8:22 PM

"Build Dynamic RAM Preview" is there for a purpose . use it .

right-w wrote on 2/4/2019, 11:16 PM

a simple setup wizard would do this thing a lot of good. a little flowchart leading to your specific settings and wants.

 

"by the way, should the gpu acceleration *always* be set to my 1080?

What is the other option? Intel HDxxx?"

the only other option is off. i read somewhere to turn it off during rendering i think.

let's see.. one video is 1080p. one is 720, and the other is 360. hadn't really thought about that. all of them are 30fps. AVC format. mp4's.

 

"the programming core of VP is old and doesn't make full use out of your hardware"

lame. does premiere? how is this not updated by now? hm.

makes me wonder how the hollywood guys work. what they use. besides experience.

"Try to find plugins that will use the GPU to offload some of the CPU burden"

gimme a starting point.. a name? thank you sir.

 

"Build Dynamic RAM Preview" is there for a purpose . use it ."

this looks *very* interesting. nice. thank you too.

right-w wrote on 2/5/2019, 12:06 AM

i managed to find the hidden settings, also known as "internal". brilliant. invisible settings. good thinking. i changed the word 'true' to 'false' on one of them and now it supposedly won't freeze up while rendering anymore. i essentially had to tell it to knock it off.. this software is stunning.

there was another setting.. 'view transform', i was wondering why the video looked nothing like the original so i looked it up. i had to change 'sRGB (Aces)' to OFF so it would quit **ing with my stuff. this is on by DEFAULT. couldn't believe it.

and now this "Build Dynamic RAM Preview". a magical little thing that'll fix everything, hidden away in settings, that probably should just be incorporated from the get-go, but no, i have to tell it to do it. after i find out about it on the internet. after ripping hair out.

first of all it's greyed out no matter what i try. let's go reading. again. ooohh, i need to select the *region*, and not just simply the clips. ok vegas. i need to drag the loop thing. i hit the button, there's no indication that anything happened, and nothing has changed. i set the thing to use up to 10gb. i'm getting 1.1fps now.

all i can do is laugh

this is incredible

this has to be hell

and this is all to get it as maxed out as i can, only to eventually hit a glass ceiling because the developers haven't gotten around to updating the core programming yet.

can we say **** here? **** vegas. up it's ***.

AVsupport wrote on 2/5/2019, 1:10 AM

If you're new to Vegas, swearing won't help. Patience and knowledge does. This is a product in constant development. And since you didn't pay Hollywood-style money for your software, I wouldn't expect it to behave like that. Welcome to the journey. No need to be rude

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

right-w wrote on 2/5/2019, 2:33 AM

believe me, swearing helps a hell of a lot. i've been doing it straight for 6 weeks. sometimes as loud as i can.

vegas is pure ******* garbage. that's my review. i've wasted way too much time on this C***.

klt wrote on 2/5/2019, 2:43 AM

Get Lightworks, try to get used to it and feel like in Hollywood.

OldSmoke wrote on 2/5/2019, 6:45 AM

. i had to change 'sRGB (Aces)' to OFF so it would quit **ing with my stuff.

Are you still working in 32bit Full? Why?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Musicvid wrote on 2/5/2019, 12:49 PM

“It is easy, when you are young, to believe that what you desire is no less than what you deserve, to assume that if you want something badly enough, it is your God-given right to have it.” 
― Jon Krakauer, Into the Wild

fan-boy wrote on 2/6/2019, 8:30 PM

@right-w

Vegas menu : Tools-->Build Dynamic RAM Preview

was made for what you ask . When FX are added and playback is sludge on the time line . mark a short segment and render to System memory . Vegas menu : Options-->Preferences-->Video Tab to tell Vegas how much system RAM to use for Dynamic RAM Preview . As Vegas never intended anyone to render an entire clip for testing . As you pointed out , what a hassle that would be .

Also , GPU acceleration on the Time Line can help , when using GPU accelerated FX Effects . See Vegas menu : Options-->Preferences-->Video Tab , box just below the "Core Count" digit box .