Yes, You Can Professionally Color Correct and Grade In Vegas

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AVsupport wrote on 2/15/2019, 10:55 PM

Specifically, what do these other tools do that Vegas doesn't?

Well, in short, correction tools that work with a LOG curve. Useful I'd say if you shoot in anything else but 709. As here in the 'Log vs Primary Color Wheels - Davinci Resolve 14 Beginner Tutorial'

 

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

fr0sty wrote on 2/16/2019, 12:05 PM

I passed your findings on to Magix, this was the response I got.

"The difficulty with discussions of that sort is that people make assertions without knowing the full background of the topic. The person posting that image likely has their system configured for a regular 8bit pixel format project. Projects of this type have a fixed gamma of 2.222, thus the 8bit RGB color [128,128,128] will not be in the middle of the Color Curves graph. There is a long discussion of Gamma Correction here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction"

fan-boy wrote on 2/16/2019, 4:24 PM

@fr0sty

added 1 more pic to the previous Post ..128 is in the middle of Curves , when gamma is at 2.2222 as frOsty said , for 8 bit , 32 bit Video Level, and for 32 bit Full( manually set gamma to 2.2222 ) , in Project settings .

yep , your gamma 2.2222 is the fix . I had used 32 bit Full Project setting , but the gamma was at the 1.000 Linear setting . with gamma manually set to 2.2222 , 32 bit Full , 128 is now in the middle of Curves . Curves is now a linear graph .

wasn't trying to find anything wrong , And yeah , "without knowing the full background of the topic" just wanted to "see" what was going on . know more then I did before , success !

fr0sty wrote on 2/17/2019, 3:36 AM

I reported it as a possible bug, which is probably why it was phrased like that, no worries. We all learned something here!

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Geforce RTX 3090

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Musicvid wrote on 2/17/2019, 7:07 AM

I, for one, love fan-boy's testing! I think he's discovering the pitfalls of extrapolating causes from a single set of indicators. I have had to eat it many times for the same reason, and a mistake is a new opportunity in my playbook.

I floated the word "bug" because that nonlinear response curve is completely foreign to my experience, but completely understandable in a flatline gamma domain.

Keep up the good work! It is noticed.

Musicvid wrote on 2/17/2019, 7:51 AM

Just a personal [ASIDE /]

My goodness, we have some intelligent new talent in our midst! Where have all you guys been hiding? I remember inheriting a nerdy g/t math section in a large school. Knowing the kind of physical peer pressure on these guys to dumb down, I made it quite clear it was OK to take risks, and to make mistakes, and to swim upstream (makes you stronger).

Well, that same baker's dozen won the state chess championship that year (no, I was not their chess coach), but with the unfortunate reciprocal effect of fostering a couple of gifted, nonphysical bullies, who could prevail in any lunchroom arena by bringing real evidence to the table, preferably along with a big, smart friend. I call it the "Sheldon Effect." An annoyance to be sure, and yet a most welcome departure from my own experience, which involved a lot of "running from." [/]

Sorry for the intrusion, which hardly seems necessary...