Black flickering occurs during both playback and rendered video

Bolla wrote on 7/28/2019, 3:59 PM

Hi!

I'm new to Vegas Pro, I recently switched from Final Cut Pro x to Vegas Pro 16. I make gaming videos for Youtube, and I was going to edit a video on vegas pro 16 for the first time, but everytime i looked at the preiview, it began to flicker black and it began to replay some clips, this all happened when i ungrouped the audio from the video (Because the audio was out of sync) but the preview still flickered black, but instead of replaying clips, the footage just became glitchy. GPU acceleration is off and i've desabled resample, how can i fix this problem?

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j-v wrote on 7/28/2019, 4:10 PM

Strange fps of your video sources.

What is the MediaInfo of the used sourcefiles and look also at this advice.

What is your used rendertemplate with the problems?
 

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fr0sty wrote on 7/28/2019, 4:45 PM

I'd say that frame rate of 48,000 in your project settings has something to do with it.

If you are doing youtube gaming videos, youtube maxes out at 60fps. So, you should not be capturing, editing, or rendering your video at anything other than 60fps (or 59.94fps). Might want to bump the resolution up to 1080p as well (1920x1080), as most games these days run at least 1080p resolution.

Last changed by fr0sty on 7/28/2019, 4:48 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Bolla wrote on 7/28/2019, 4:51 PM

I'd say that frame rate of 48,000 in your project settings has something to do with it.

If you are doing youtube gaming videos, youtube maxes out at 60fps. So, you should not be capturing, editing, or rendering your video at anything other than 60fps (or 59.94fps). Might want to bump the resolution up to 1080p as well (1920x1080), as most games these days run at least 1080p resolution.

Ok thanks, I'll try. The reason the project i in 720p48 is because my pc isn't powerful enough to record in 1080p, and i recorded in 48 fps because everytime i record in 50 or 60 fps, obs crashes when i stop recording

Musicvid wrote on 7/28/2019, 5:44 PM

What are you recording your video with?

Shadowplay does not work, OBS does work in Vegas.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

48,000 means 48 fps in European.

Bolla wrote on 7/29/2019, 3:27 PM

Strange fps of your video sources.

What is the MediaInfo of the used sourcefiles and look also at this advice.

What is your used rendertemplate with the problems?
 

Hi! Thanks for the help, but I'm having trouble understanding what I'm supposed to do with the MediaInfo program

j-v wrote on 7/29/2019, 3:42 PM

On this forum words or sentences in blu are links to ( in this case) explanation how and what to do. Click on the words in blu and you will see.

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver 566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Bolla wrote on 7/29/2019, 4:16 PM

j-v, I clicked the links but I still don't understand what I'm supposed to do, I read everything and watched the video tutorial. How is MediaInfo supposed to help? do I have to edit everything all over again? Are there any other solutions?

j-v wrote on 7/29/2019, 4:27 PM

Sorry but if you are not getting what those faqs ask you to do to get help, I cannot help you anymore.

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Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver 566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Bolla wrote on 7/29/2019, 4:31 PM

ok thanks

fr0sty wrote on 7/29/2019, 4:41 PM

Mediainfo provides you with a detailed list of exactly what type of media you are using, which after posting it here, enables us to spot any issues that might be causing your incompatibility. You won't have to edit the video over again, at the worst you might have to convert it to another format before editing.

Last changed by fr0sty on 7/29/2019, 4:41 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Bolla wrote on 7/29/2019, 4:45 PM

Oh ok

here's the info:

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Eier\Desktop\The Epic Minecraft Collab\2019-07-09 22-17-38.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 12.0 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 39 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 17.4 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf57.84.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.2
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 1 h 39 min
Bit rate                                 : 17.2 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 48.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.389
Stream size                              : 11.9 GiB (99%)
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 1 h 39 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 122 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 86.8 MiB (1%)
Title                                    : simple_aac_recording
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1


General
  Name: 2019-07-09 22-17-38.mp4
  Folder: C:\Users\Eier\Desktop\The Epic Minecraft Collab
  Type: AVC
  Size: 12,61 GB (12 909 590 135 bytes)
  Created: tirsdag 9. juli 2019, 22:17:39
  Modified: tirsdag 9. juli 2019, 23:56:58
  Accessed: tirsdag 9. juli 2019, 22:17:40
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 01:39:09,604, 48,000 fps progressive, 1280x720x32, AVC
  Audio: 01:39:09,508, 44 100 Hz; Stereo, AAC

Summary
  [TCFM]: 10

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: so4compoundplug.dll
  Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 16.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
  Format: AVC
  Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

 

fr0sty wrote on 7/29/2019, 5:01 PM

What are your system specs? I might be able to recommend some setting changes that will get OBS working better for you.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Bolla wrote on 7/29/2019, 5:06 PM

Specs:

7. gen. Intel® Pentium® Gold desktop-processor (Kaby Lake)

GeForce GTX 1050 graphicscard with 4GB videomemory

8GB DDR4 RAM

1TB harddisk

Bolla wrote on 7/30/2019, 5:18 AM

I found a solution, thanks for the help anyways!

EricLNZ wrote on 7/30/2019, 5:25 AM

I found a solution, thanks for the help anyways!

What was the solution. It might help others who run across the same problem.

Bolla wrote on 7/30/2019, 5:34 AM

I found a solution, thanks for the help anyways!

What was the solution. It might help others who run across the same problem.

i recorded with the wrong encoder (NvENC) so instead of editing everything all over again, I'm going to export the video as a Final Cut Pro X Project (Because I have an old mac with FCPX) and send the project file to my mac, open it with final cut pro and export the video as a video file.

Former user wrote on 7/31/2019, 12:01 AM

You probably just need to do the following.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/avc-xavc-s-issues-in-vp15-16-try-disabling-so4compoundplug-dll--108345/

it's a known problem with hardware encoding with nvenc OBS. Also there are 2 nvenc options in OBS, nvenc, and nvenc(new) . you could try the one you're not using now. I don't know what your cpu is, but maybe you are better off with nvenc rather than software encode for games.