Does anyone have advice on encoding settings or Filters?

Macula wrote on 7/17/2017, 4:11 AM

I been trying to figure out best encoding settings for game recordings I made, because I am trying to get best youtube quality.

Yes I know that youtube re-encodes it but still if you have some advice tricks with filters or something like that I could use I am all ears.

Here some videos I tried different bitrate:

I made various variations of videos with and without sharpen filter and I used MainConcept from Vegas Pro 14 (and I hear they same as previous version anyway) and External encoding through DebugMode Framerserver and MeGUI x264 encoder (I didn't encode through it audio so I muxed same audio from already done through MainConcept).

Each youtube has in description mega link to uploaded video file I used to upload on youtube.

Honestly I tried many variations to the point I am starting to see them all same so if you notice something please let me know.

Few information about original recording video:

  • It was recorded in Mirillis Action with Ultra quality settings, 1920x1080p, 60 Frame rate and range set for PC (0-255) directly to AVI (so it's mirillis codec FICV) and I directly added source video in Vegas Pro track to work on it.
  • The game I recorded has some bad pop in effects (texture just pops out of nowhere clearly visible with grass like shown in video) so I kinda don't have much hope it get fixed but still there are some fast motions that makes video even worse on youtube.
  • Also I noticed there some differences about colors when I compare MainConcept with external x264 codec regardless of bitrate so I wonder what is that all about.

Comments

Macula wrote on 7/17/2017, 5:57 AM

Also I been reading how VP9 is better codec for youtube and I discovered reading on various forums various ways how to get VP9 codec on your video and one of them is to simply go to Enhancements and click on save which forces to encode in VP9 instead regular avc1 that you can see on stat for nerds on youtube.

So here are the copy of same videos only these ones are in VP9:

Musicvid wrote on 7/17/2017, 1:56 PM

This forum is literally filled with advice for doing just what you are doing, and if you are OK with someone inventing the wheel before you arrived, you will find the friendly forum Search feature very helpful.

Macula wrote on 7/17/2017, 3:57 PM

Thx for reply however this post wasn't exactly posted on day one, I been doing nothing but reading or watching tutorials this past month.

Reinventing wheel isn't exactly my goal I just want some input if I did some mistakes or missed something or even misinformed about something. I ain't exactly professional and don't have much people to ask about these kinds of things.

Not to mention that I am not exactly good at wording my thoughts since I ain't native english.

If you point at any mistakes I gladly look more into it but only if I know at what to look at.

Musicvid wrote on 7/17/2017, 4:31 PM

I would pick a workflow that seems reliable and stick with it.

The difference between x264 and Vegas is that x264 converts your AVI from RGB to playback levels automatically, whereas you do this manually in Vegas, using the Studio RGB Levels filter.

Comparing minor differences in encoding is like having the tail (Vegas) try to wag the dog (Youtube). You won't even get a wiggle at the north end.

ushere wrote on 7/18/2017, 1:44 AM

Comparing minor differences in encoding is like having the tail (Vegas) try to wag the dog (Youtube). You won't even get a wiggle at the north end.

very well put. unless YOU can deliver to your clients/viewers (albeit usb, dvd, stream, etc.,), you're at the mercy of youtube, (though in general, i find vimeo better quality).

Macula wrote on 7/18/2017, 5:11 AM

Yea, Vimeo does have better quality that is undisputed for sure.

Still Musicvid did sort of managed to remind me of something about levels I didn't tried yet to test.

This whole thing manually changing levels tends to confuse me a lot.

john_dennis wrote on 7/18/2017, 5:10 PM

The subject has been covered ad nausea and the problem is and has always been youtube's delivery bit rate. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't know what you're doing, but if you are to remain sane, you should know when stop tinkering and move on.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/it-ain-t-gonna-look-good-at-3-mbps--98139/

For those videos that I really care about, I watch it on a 4K tv from a flash drive. Those people that have to watch it on youtube (usually on their smart phone) get what they get.