If I'm a bean counter for a TV station just having converted to 2K for hundreds of thousands of dollars and contemplating converting to 4K spending more hundreds of thousands I am not even considering 8K just like I did not consider 3D. I make the same money transmitting Kinescope and VHS and 2K so why 8K?
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That said, broadcast TV in general has its days numbered. once wireless high speed internet (5G, etc) become widely available enough to render it obsolete. Internet based TV services already easily swap between codecs as needed, without needing an act of god and 50 years to get it changed. We're still using MPEG 2 over the air... online we're using HEVC and other formats, with wide compatibility still retained. Fewer and fewer people watch broadcast TV these days, and that bandwidth would likely sell for good $ for other uses. TV stations will eventually just broadcast over IP.
frosty, sorry to seem out of touch, but I have broadband 4k smart TV, Chromecast, Fire 4k, but most of my available viewing time is spent on local OTA indie and network stations. Made-for-streaming entertainment just doesn't hold the same appeal, and I really can't explain that.
I think we can all agree today that "broadcast" distribution is no the gold standard in image quality anymore. Over the air ATSC is MPEG-2 at 19mbp/s. Cable companies are pumping about 7-12 Mbp/s h.264 into your home. The vast majority of it is 720p or 1080i.
Hell, I think YouTube's 4k, 6k and 8k look better than "broadcast" today by a long shot. Even Netflix 4k looks pretty impressive.
Yes,...the future is internet delivery. Its more open and easily scalabile for better and better bitrates.
Mobile/tablet viewing is growing. No mobile device has an antenna with RF modulator today and that is never going to happen in the future.
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You may be missing a point.
Unless rapid deployment broadcast capability is embraced industry-wide, it will never become the "gold standard," but simply an oddity or museum piece.
Of course, 4k broadcast hasn't been fully embraced yet, and ATSC 3.0 seems to be languishing in some areas, so two decades or whatever may just be too long to wait.
frosty, sorry to seem out of touch, but I have broadband 4k smart TV, Chromecast, Fire 4k, but most of my available viewing time is spent on local OTA indie and network stations. Made-for-streaming entertainment just doesn't hold the same appeal, and I really can't explain that.
Doesn't mean you couldn't be getting that same content over IP rather than an antenna or cable connection, and it would be far cheaper on the broadcaster to do so. Penetration is the only thing holding them back, and as internet connections become as common as electricity, that is quickly changing. Even for the most remote areas, cellular and satellite based very high speed (up to gigabit speeds, if not faster)connections are being planned and will be rolled out over the next decade. It simply won't make financial sense to broadcast the traditional way anymore in the near future.
If you ask me, to tens of billions of consumers, theoretical "quality" beyond 1080 p isn't going to mean a damn thing, and never will.
But planning that next big purchase sure is fun. Isn't it?
There's only 7 billion of them out there... but you are right, for the most part. I've noticed HDR, when shot and graded properly, and displayed on a good OLED or QLED display, does have a similar effect that HD did when it comes to making people say "damn, that is a really nice TV". Moreso than any resolution increase since 720p, honestly. That said, even it isn't making people rush to buy new TVs like HD did, and 8k definitely isn't. Few people have the space in their homes to buy a big enough TV to really be able to appreciate the added pixel density at any reasonable viewing distance.
Get on akamai, compare connection speeds, and you will know why emergent technologies are spawned in Tokyo. As with Hdtv, it doesn't mean the rest of us will be getting it any time soon. And when we do, Tokyo will already be ho-hum about it.
Why do I care about XEVC? Because of 8K? No. Because of this:
now we’re seeing information about Sony’s new “XEVC” codec, which offers 8K 12-Bit RAW 24fps video at up to 240Mbps and 1080p 10-Bit video up to 240 frames per second.
https://www.diyphotography.net/sonys-xevc-12-bit-8k-raw-video-codec-may-be-coming-to-the-a7siii/
It's about time Sony gives 10-bit Video to their Alpha line before it looses market share to Panasonic (and others) etc if they want to dominate the ILCE market. I am invested in the Sony eco system and want 10Bit to unlock Slog and HDR in a meaningful way. The Vegas user base is historically Sony based, this is why Magix should care to implement this codec.
'8K' is Gold for the Sales guys as was '4K' when '4K' was novelty. I deliver in 1080, so I only use the pain of 4K if I have a good reason like reframing interviews in post. This reason will stay relevant for people that must deliver 4K.
That data increase dangling on the horizon, I would wanna make sure that the Vegas Core is up for it.. ;-) GO BOYZ!!
[offtopic: the variable ND crosses only happen when you driving them too far, like any 2 polarized filters will, get a Tiffen]
'8K' is Gold for the Sales guys as was '4K' when '4K' was novelty.
The "Sales guys" know P.T. Barnum well...
Enjoying your Google Glass?
Care or not, like it or not, 8K's a commin' 
Hello everyone, I have a question and would like to have an answer about it, I know that Vegas for export to a limitation for resolution up to 4K. Is it possible for the next update, to remove this limitation of resolution, that we could make our choice for export, ie to exceed the resolution 4K, for example to export with a resolution of 5120x2700 is 6560x3100 or in 8K. Because this is the future of the 8K and it arrives quickly. It would be nice if you could do that and it will already allow the software to be well put forward and the tastes of the day.
It's also not just for DELIVERABLE. One should be able to export to 8K to future proof current projects. Or make a master for later HQ editing.
Will in the next Vegas Pro 16 update be able to export in any video resolution? thank you
Dejavu...
Sony is about to release a new 8k Handycam at CES 2019
8K's a commin'
Makes me remember the days when people looked around what (still)camera to buy, and the biggest number with the megapixels won...
Also...imaging shooting a band interview in 8k. You could frame the whole band in 8k in wide, then you can crop in 4x on talking band members and still deliver a "multicam" interview in 4k using only one camera.
Theoretically yes. In practice I doubt. This would require OPTICS that can draw the picture in that pixel-perfect detail to the sensor.
You can do this in Vegas. Just like zooming into a large still image. ( Or like zooming into 4k footage when delivering HD.)
8K's a commin'
Makes me remember the days when people looked around what (still)camera to buy, and the biggest number with the megapixels won...
I remember those hilarious days!!! They finally got over the pixel amount wars, settled at like 10mp for photos (something I believe the Canon company was pushing for), and then look at us now. NO ONE would bother shooting photos on 10mp. Just, why would you? Pros are Hasselblading 50 to 100mp for their stills now and never looked back. Why would you when so much better is availalbe?
Watched a new video from behind the scenes of industry workflow people talking about how they can't wait for 12k and 16k format. They are planning now for that. (these are DIT guys who handle most of hollyweirds biggest productions)
Future's gonna happen.
I'd read in a previous life of "Vegas", several different times (google it) the 4096x4096 limit is a deeply embedded part of the Vegas engine and can not be changed without a complete rewrite from the ground up. (I'm not a code guy and dont really know, its just what I read in the past groups at that OTHER company)