Thanks Tim.

Exactly Dave! so you use the pan and crop tool to pan and crop WITHIN your media that’s why you don’t have a shadow option in pan/crop window. And you will get the maximum resolution from your image when panning and cropping WITHIN the image but only to the pixels in your project size. This is NOT zooming.

Track motion you use to move the camera and zoom and move OUTSIDE your image.

This is not splitting hairs. Why is it important to understand = because its the very foundation of how Vegas works, if you use the wrong window for the wrong application everything else falls apart. How many folks come to this forum and say why are my shadows!!!??? getting cropped off when I am zooming into my image?
Well bro cuz you’re cropping not zooming cuz if you’re zooming you would still have ya shadows.

Rory,

I am not really understanding your point. They are both doing a digital zoom. The PanCrop does it using the original resolution of the image, the track motion does it using the project resolution. The PanCrop gives you a better final product when "zooming" an image to make it larger in the screen. I use it for all "slide shows" that I create.

I only use the track motion to reposition an image or make it smaller on the screen.
I can put a drop shadow using the track motion and zoom it with Pan crop and not lose the drop shadow.

Have you tried creating a Zoom with Pan Crop (not cropping but enlarging and shrinking?

Here is a zoom I created using Pan Crop and using track motion for the drop shadow only. Zoom is done using Pan Crop



here is a zoom that goes off center

+1 DaveT2

No matter which words you want to use to describe it.
I use 'Pan Crop' to "zoom" in and back out of an image or video for the highest quality I can achieve without extra effects or outside help.
I have also used 'Pan Crop', to Crop & Pan a video too. And sometimes, I Crop & Pan while "zooming", using only Pan Crop,
When viewing the results on a screen, it will look like "zooming", and that's the effect I'm trying to get.
If that's not technically correct..... it will be, in the near future.

For that matter, if what Pan/Crop does isn't zooming, then what Track Motion does isn't zooming either.

Guys it’s not about being technically correct! understanding the difference will allow you to be more creative.

So with some blues sing along to the clip “ Why my head hurts when I video edit in Vegas”

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Look not understanding the difference zooming and cropping is producing a clip like this.



Understanding Perspective in zoom=
The clip is back to front = earth is 4 times bigger than the moon, so shooting from the moon side moon will be much bigger.
When you zoom you will get a parallax shift...ok so these guys just zoomed 31 million miles. O YES 31 million miles with a prime lens ....and some alien pulled the focus for them I guess.
Understanding the difference between shadows =
The light on the moon from the sun will be on the moon constantly because of the space between the moon and earth it won’t just pop out from behind the earth.

For NASA’S huge budget I expect a higher standard of absolute mindless trash that looks believable, but that’s just me splitting hairs.

Rory,

You are discussing zooming in a 3D world. I don't remember any mention of 3d in the OPs original question. And still doesn't change the fact that the PAN/CROP zooms will create a better quality image when you are zooming in far enough to enlarge past the project resolution.

Anyway, enjoy and catch you later.

Well Dave that’s because one is zooming and losing focus which is what zooming does and one is cropping and keeping same focus which is what cropping does.

because others have a difference of opinion to yours doesn’t mean that they are stupid they simply see things from a different perspective to yours.
Ignoring someone with a push of a button is an automated response which shows a lack of love and understanding of people.

Rory, I have no problem with your difference in opinion, and I did not imply that you or your ideas are ****, so don't assume please. but I don't see any point of discussing further since we are talking about two different things. In most situations, the people here are dealing with photos doing zooms and pans, in what used to called the "ken burns' style. In this case, the pan/crop allows retention of the quality of the original image more than track motion. Once you get into 3d parallax manipulation, then circumstances change. and again, retaining quality thru the retention of resolution is different than keeping same focus. The blur caused by zooming into an image in track motion in Vegas is caused by exceeding the resolution of the project and the image (which has been fixed at project resolution) , not related to changes in depth of field or focus.

But we have already been thru this which is why I moved on, I was not dismissing your ideas, just didn't think the discussion had anyplace else to go.

Yes sure. The point is when I first came to this forum and if it was pointed out to me that pan and crop is just that... pan and crop... and it’s called that in Vegas for a reason and zoom is a track motion aspect I would have saved myself a year of learning using Vegas the wrong way and the hard way.

For those who can't be bothered to try it or don't believe the difference between "zooming" in P&C and Track Motion, here's a brief demo I made three years ago for another forum

Hi This video i private can you pls make it sharable?

Rory,

I am not really understanding your point. They are both doing a digital zoom. The PanCrop does it using the original resolution of the image, the track motion does it using the project resolution. The PanCrop gives you a better final product when "zooming" an image to make it larger in the screen. I use it for all "slide shows" that I create.

I only use the track motion to reposition an image or make it smaller on the screen.
I can put a drop shadow using the track motion and zoom it with Pan crop and not lose the drop shadow.

Have you tried creating a Zoom with Pan Crop (not cropping but enlarging and shrinking?

Here is a zoom I created using Pan Crop and using track motion for the drop shadow only. Zoom is done using Pan Crop



here is a zoom that goes off center

can you please make these videos sharable ?

Hi Kev, being new, you probably aren't aware that you have tacked on to an eight year old dormant thread. Probably not the best place to explore this issue. Rory and the guys haven't been around these parts for some time...

Welcome to the discussions.

@Kev-Mcgoldrick Also VP has changed a lot since 2004. Suggest you start a new thread telling us what you are having problems with.