At the very least, the .svp0 file should show up in Project Media.

@Musicvid "should" as in VP is supposed to do that now and it doesn't always work or "should" as "I wish it did that?"

Neither, despite the appeal to dichotomy.

If all encoded media that is either introduced into or created within a Vegas project appears in the Project Media pane with the sole exception of proxy media, then the omission "should" be explainable by logical insolvable considerations or included with the rest.

It's called deductive reasoning.

From the Vegas 19 Help file:

"VEGAS Pro creates video proxy files (.sfvp0) alongside the original files in Windows Explorer. You will not see these files in the Project Media window or VEGAS Pro Explorer."

For whatever reason, the display decision was explicitly made by the developers.

For whatever reason, the display decision was explicitly made by the developers.

Thanks, it is a question worth asking.

It would seem to me that adding a display filter to Show Proxies would be less effort that building the Aswan High Dam to accommodate the 1.8 people in the known universe that might find the feature useful.

So -- great, we've established that it works as programmed.

My question still stands then. Just because they don't list the proxy files as media files in "Project Media", this does not preclude them from adding a column which indicates if a proxy file exists for one of the used project media, and if it will be used in preview/draft.

Increasingly I'm working with Proxies, and seeing as you need to go into Project Media to initiate the process of building a proxy, it would make sense to be able to see which ones still need it.

@Musicvid that was a seriously assholeish reply to a simple and honest question. In the end all you did was tell me "the latter" while doing it in the most obnoxious way possible. I'll remember to stay out of your sphere from now on.

;?)

@michael-harrison 👍

Gentlemen, please calm down. Perhaps Musicvid's answer was a bit sneaky or cynical. But there are only a limited number of forum members here who can contribute helpful information and experience, and that just includes @michael-harrison, Musicvid and Gid..
Life is too short to ignore each other here. Imho, I find an ironic conversation occasionally invigorating, and for me as a non-native speaker who certainly often fails to properly apply the subtle nuances of the English language (though I take comfort in the fact that very few Americans could do this in German), it's fun to follow, perhaps I'm overlooking how the level of civility has been exceeded here.

Increasingly I'm working with Proxies, and seeing as you need to go into Project Media to initiate the process of building a proxy, it would make sense to be able to see which ones still need it.

By selecting media in the project media tab and after right clicking, you can choose to create manually proxies. Proxies are than created for all media that hasn't a proxy yet. Also it's possible to create automatically proxies as soon as media is added to the media tab. At which resolution this happens can be chosen in the Internal settings.

FWIW: I hate waiting for Vegas' proxy generation so disable it and create my own using Handbrake or FFMPEG when needed.

FWIW: I hate waiting for Vegas' proxy generation so disable it and create my own using Handbrake or FFMPEG when needed.

Also with Handbrake or FFMPEG you have to wait. Another option in Vegas is to use Vegasaur for proxy or intermediate creation, but needs also some time. Best option is to use a fast PC then there's almost no need for proxies.

It would seem to me that adding a display filter to Show Proxies would be less effort that building the Aswan High Dam to accommodate the 1.8 people in the known universe that might find the feature useful.

 

Including extra rows for the corresponding proxy files would seem rather trivial, while also providing potentially useful information about the characteristics of the proxy. I thought just a column to indicate the proxy's existence would be a tad easier.. but either way would be helpful.

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Best option is to use a fast PC then there's almost no need for proxies.

If there were no need, proxy features and workflows wouldn't exist. Clearly there is a need in both the Vegas community, and entire video/film industry.

In my case, while my desktop can handle a few 4K streams OK, the 2nd machine we use doesn't do so as well. And when some of our shoots are using 5+ 4K cameras then I need to use Proxies on mine as well.

IBy selecting media in the project media tab and after right clicking, you can choose to create manually proxies. Proxies are than created for all media that hasn't a proxy yet.

Oh -- that is useful. So if a proxy file exists already for a piece of media, and I right-click and manually say "build proxy", it won't do anything?

If that's accurate, then i can sort by resolution, select the 4K files and do that without concern for re-building proxies that already exist.

Also it's possible to create automatically proxies as soon as media is added to the media tab. At which resolution this happens can be chosen in the Internal settings.

I do like having control to manually select, but that's a good point too.

So a 4K file that's 3840x2160 wouldn't auto-generate given this, but changing the "Minimum X" to 3840 would?

FWIW: I hate waiting for Vegas' proxy generation so disable it and create my own using Handbrake or FFMPEG when needed.

I've used FFMPEG for these workflows too.

- to auto-merge multiple Osmo Action or GoPro files into one (avoiding audio-drop/gaps) while copying media from the microSD card

- to build proxies for folders that seem to run well on all my machines

FFMPEG seems really very efficient.

AND -- there's something to be said about the simplicity of getting the media on the timeline and just having Vegas (or Vegasaur) build thing.. AND.. using Vegas's native proxy/no-proxy (preview/good) native feature is very helpful sometimes -- being able to toggle preview/good during the edit process (e.g. with a 3x3 or 4x4 multi-cam edit, can be very helpful). I wonder if you could use ffmpeg to build a SFVP0 proxy file?

@frmax Well said.

Ladies & Gentlemen, please remember

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/respecting-fellow-community-members--131115/

As for the topic of this thread I personally consider @RedRob-CandlelightProdctns suggestion a good idea so Rob please post it in https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-19-feature-requests--123432/?page=14

As for the topic of this thread I personally consider @RedRob-CandlelightProdctns suggestion a good idea so Rob please post it in https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-pro-19-feature-requests--123432/?page=14

That's still just a forum-post there.. is that the current protocol for enhancement requests and bug reports? I thought the Vegas team had a different link for formal submissions. (I've posted it there as you suggested)

 

It would seem to me that adding a display filter to Show Proxies would be less effort that building the Aswan High Dam to accommodate the 1.8 people in the known universe that might find the feature useful.

 

Including extra rows for the corresponding proxy files would seem rather trivial, while also providing potentially useful information about the characteristics of the proxy. I thought just a column to indicate the proxy's existence would be a tad easier.. but either way would be helpful.

In resolve you have the proxy column.

On the timeline optimized media is indicated by the blue line at the top. Optimized media is a form of proxy for an individual timeline clip instead of the source clip. The more information quickly available to user the better.

Case in point why this is useful -- the quality of proxies I just built for a project in Vegas was very poor, so I re-built them using Vegasaur telling it to use the native Vegas proxy format. Looks MUCH better. But guess what -- Vegas isn't using them.

How do I know?

I ran the command-line: Openfiles /Query to view all open files. No proxy files are open!

So away I go now to manually swap them in/out... :( sorry to see the Vegasaur method isn't working now