Importing AVI files gives video but no audio Vegas Pro 19.0

Macula wrote on 4/17/2022, 11:56 AM

https://we.tl/t-b7RL9ldQZK 10 seconds Sample AVI file

I can open video and audio in VirtualDub but in Vegas Pro 19.0 I can only import Video and not Audio.

A few pieces of information about the AVI file, it's recorded in Mirillis Action! and it uses the FIVC codec which you can get by installing their software on a PC like Action!, or other product that contains that codec (there is a video player called Mirillis Splash, I think it's free too but I don't usually need to install another player myself with Action already installed).

If you can't open video in Vegas then you must have not installed Action correctly (or just missing software that comes with a codec that decodes video, installing Action! or Splash fixes that) for the codec to decode video which I had a problem recently with it, but that's due to the nature of the windows 10 account, mine is usually regular with no admin access, I usually use a password to get around with installations that, etc. but apparently that was an issue with Mirillis Action so I had to reinstall it while logged in administrator account instead and that fixed it for me, most people wouldn't even have an issue if they are already admin type windows account.

In past, I always had an issue even with past versions of Vegas Pro to import both video and audio, the only solution for that was to extract audio out (which you can do in VirtualDub OR just use ffmpeg -i "Filename.avi" -vn -c:a copy output.wav command), here is where my confusion comes in, while the video is encoded in proprietary codec FIVC, audio appears not to be, in MediaInfo, it tells me it's just regular PCM format, with codec ID "00000001-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71".

Also when I used mentioned command to extract in FFmpeg, it copies the audio stream without re-encoding, and extracted audio DOES import in Vegas Pro, makes me wonder why this is even happening?

As in the screenshots presented, the first one is from an AVI file and the second one is from extracted audio wav file, only difference in there I spotted is "Alignment" and "Interleave, duration" are missing in extracted audio one.

I am just curious if anyone can explain this behavior with Vegas Pro? Or maybe if there is a setting that needs to be switched On or Off? Otherwise, I have mostly figured it out even with this issue present, just a nagging mystery of why this is happening, It shouldn't need audio to be extracted when audio is compatible alone.

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rraud wrote on 4/17/2022, 12:51 PM

I do not know why it will not play. Mediainfo states the audio is PCM. I converted it in HandBreak which then opened and play'd back the transcoded file in VP.. if that helps.

Macula wrote on 4/17/2022, 1:00 PM

There is no need to even transcode it as I said in part mentioning FFmpeg, I copied the audio stream without video and that did work, just won't when it's in the original AVI file for some reason. While video has no problem being imported.

Thx for checking it out

john_dennis wrote on 4/17/2022, 1:15 PM

@Macula

[SWAG]

Could you change your recording software to record at 48kHz/16bit?

[/SWAG]

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Musicvid wrote on 4/17/2022, 1:55 PM

When I had a similar probelem, it was bc the audio was recorded in float, not integer space. As @john_dennisinfers, 96 kHz is not a normal audio format for video, except Bluray.

Macula wrote on 4/17/2022, 2:01 PM

@Macula

[SWAG]

Could you change your recording software to record at 48kHz/16bit?

[/SWAG]

No, the recording software only records whatever system sound format is set up, it's set up on 24bit 96000 Hz currently, but I did lower it to 24bit 48000 Hz after reading your post and tried recording and later importing it in vegas, and that worked! 😲

So it was audio format?!

john_dennis wrote on 4/17/2022, 2:20 PM

@Macula

If you have a working recording scheme, that looks like a solution to me. It's unlikely that you will notice a difference in audio quality. I can assure you that years on stages around the country and computer rooms would keep me from hearing the difference.

My main system:
Motherboard: Asus X99-AII
CPU: Intel i7-6850K
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX480-8GB
RAM: Corsair Dominator (4 x 4 GB) DDR4 2400
Disk O/S & Programs: Intel SSD 750 (400 GB)
Disk Active Projects: 1TB & 2TB WD BLACK SN750 NVMe Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 Solid State Drives
Disk Other: WD Ultrastar/Hitachi Hard Drives: WDBBUR0080BNC-WRSN, HGST HUH728080ALE600, 724040ALE640, HDS3020BLA642
Case: LIAN LI PC-90 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Case
CPU cooling: Corsair Hydro series H115i
Power supply: SeaSonic SS-750KM3 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Drive Bay: Kingwin KF-256-BK 2.5" and 3.5" Trayless Hot Swap Rack with USB 3
Sound card: Crystal Sound 3 on motherboard. Recording done on another system.
Primary Monitor: Asus ProArt PA248q (24" 1920 x 1200)
O/S: Windows 10 Pro 190943
Camera: Sony RX10 Model IV

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Macula wrote on 4/17/2022, 2:25 PM

@Macula

If you have a working recording scheme, that looks like a solution to me. It's unlikely that you will notice a difference in audio quality. I can assure you that years on stages around the country and computer rooms would keep me from hearing the difference.

Yea, it's kinda odd fix, but I don't see what to complain about it 😀

Musicvid wrote on 4/17/2022, 3:54 PM

The audio standard for most traditional video formats is stereo 48kHz, 16 bit integer. You can rely on that; you can't always rely on other formats to work.

Going forward, it's best to upload your files to Drive or Dropbox. Some folks, Including me, won't click through spamwalls to get to them.