Preview corruption

AVsupport wrote on 12/6/2018, 5:38 PM

Had some heavy quick editing done the other day, rearranging a timeline with XAVC-S 1080/50 timeline containing various speed curves, crossfades, colour grades...

I was trying to speed up the preview framerate by choosing Draft/Full instead the usual Preview/Full. Ended up with timeline corruption, flickering images, wrong thumbnails in timeline clips, overall strange behaviour and eventual crashes. Anyone else had these issues before?

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 12/6/2018, 6:29 PM

I think Draft tries to decimate fields, which of course your source does not contain.

Some more tips here, but with the amount of stuff you've got, the problem may require prerender.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-make-my-video-preview-play-smoothly-in-vegas-pro--104624/

https://forums.creativecow.net/docs/forums/post.php?forumid=24&postid=16974&archive=T

AVsupport wrote on 12/6/2018, 7:20 PM

thanks @Musicvid, still hoping for intelligent background rendering, and GPU timeline playback acceleration; I would consider my PC rig fast enough not having to drop quality or fx if VP was using the resources appropriately..

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

Musicvid wrote on 12/6/2018, 7:49 PM

Oh, a disguised feature request. Sorry I couldn't help you with that.

AVsupport wrote on 12/6/2018, 8:28 PM

attempted bug report that turned into a rant. sorry.

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

OldSmoke wrote on 12/6/2018, 9:23 PM

thanks @Musicvid, still hoping for intelligent background rendering, and GPU timeline playback acceleration; I would consider my PC rig fast enough not having to drop quality or fx if VP was using the resources appropriately..

Is the i5 system in your signature your current editing machine?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

AVsupport wrote on 12/6/2018, 9:26 PM

yes it is @OldSmoke with the nVidia 1060/6

/edit: just found this..

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

so even if it's not an i7, it's not a slow CPU either (it'll be faster than a Ryzen Threadripper)

Last changed by AVsupport on 12/6/2018, 9:37 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

OldSmoke wrote on 12/6/2018, 10:04 PM

yes it is @OldSmoke with the nVidia 1060/6

/edit: just found this..

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

so even if it's not an i7, it's not a slow CPU either (it'll be faster than a Ryzen Threadripper)

@AVsupport I will not make any comments about your hardware, that would be pointless. I do however offer one advice. Ensure that your memory speed set in your bios doesn’t go beyond what the CPU’s memory controller can handle. While overclocking your memory may seem fine in the beginning, problems will slowly creep, slow enough that you will not suspect it to be the root of the problems.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

AVsupport wrote on 12/6/2018, 11:59 PM

I don't consciously overclock my memory, nor my CPU. But it's an interesting thought, nevertheless @OldSmoke!

investigation: Mobo https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-PC-PRO/Specification supporting up to 2667MHz (not overclocked), my 2x8GB XMP2.0 paired RAM slabs are DDR4-2133 (1066MHz)

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.