Proxy for still images?

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Musicvid wrote on 11/9/2019, 8:17 AM

Thanks, @john_dennis and @matthias-krutz

I tend to get tunnel-vision during assembly, even though I no longer make a cent doing so. UIs are generally an annoyance to me. I think the forgotten Window+D shortcut will take care of some, but not all of my pita moments. Thanks again, Wayne, for all you do.

rraud wrote on 11/9/2019, 9:23 AM

I put a "Show Desktop" icon in Quickk Launch bar.. Of course it's no good if the bar is hidden. Thanks, I forget all about the Win+D key shortcut. duh

wwaag wrote on 11/9/2019, 10:52 AM

I didn't forget. Rather, I never knew about Win-D. Of interest, it's actually a toggle so that if you enter it again, Windows returns to the previous window. That's a very useful tip. Thanks @matthias-krutz

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john_dennis wrote on 11/9/2019, 2:05 PM

All of my keyboards were made before there was a Windows Key.

Musicvid wrote on 11/9/2019, 2:54 PM

Right, John, we didn't need them on DOS 12.

xberk wrote on 11/9/2019, 3:47 PM

Ahhhhh .. for the good old days of character based software and 300 baud modems ....

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wwaag wrote on 11/9/2019, 4:07 PM

The good old days!

My first laptop (portable?) At 30 pounds, it was a beast.

Even earlier--how I learned Fortran.

I must admit that those early machines were impressive to watch with those humongous tape drives all moving.

Somehow, I think this thread has gotten a bit off-track.

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EricLNZ wrote on 11/9/2019, 4:53 PM

Right, John, we didn't need them on DOS 12.

I don't recall DOS getting up to 12? Or did I miss out?

Musicvid wrote on 11/9/2019, 5:29 PM

IIRC (and that's questionable) it was the last release before Windows Workstation, and eventually 3.1.

EricLNZ wrote on 11/9/2019, 5:57 PM

@Musicvid

https://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_last_version_of_MS-DOS

Musicvid wrote on 11/9/2019, 6:31 PM

Ok, I'll accept that-- I see it was installed on a FAT 12 partition, so there's my out [cough]

xberk wrote on 11/9/2019, 6:49 PM

Those were the days .. 7" floppies .. and I had hair.

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xberk wrote on 11/9/2019, 6:54 PM

Just rendered my first little project where I used the proxies from HOS. Worked perfectly. I used ImportAssist with the landing folder named Proxy, and before rendering chgd the folder name and pointed Vegas to the originals. Bammm .. full rez on the render .. and if I need to re-edit, easy to point Vegas back to the Proxy folder. IMHO, a winner Wayne.

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3POINT wrote on 11/10/2019, 6:39 AM

I'm still wondering that you need proxies for panning/cropping on still pictures. I just tested pictures with a resolution of 5184x3456 in a 3840x2160 p50 Project with preview set to preview half so preview window resolution is 1920x1080 and that views smooth on my laptop in VMS16. Making first proxies of your pictures, which will than probably be 1920x1080 resolution proxies or even less, and than viewing those with Preview Full in a 3840x2160 preview window, makes no sense to me.

Musicvid wrote on 11/10/2019, 8:31 AM

I think the stills' resolution is perhaps less important than their format. I'll run a few tests this month, since it hasn't been done in a while.

3POINT wrote on 11/10/2019, 9:02 AM

My stills are .jpg.

Musicvid wrote on 11/10/2019, 10:11 AM

Really. Now I'm going to have to do some testing -- I would have imagined .jpg comression would be harder on the decoder than .png, for instance.

xberk wrote on 11/10/2019, 10:18 AM

@3POINT .. WOW..Excellent idea. My stills are mostly going to be at 5472 x 3648 x 24 jpg .. Just tested some stills on a 4K timeline (3840 x 2160) 8 bit .. and with the preview set to "preview (half)" they run almost as smoothly as the proxies I made with HOS ImportAssist on my laptop. My laptop is a brand new Dell XPS 7590 i7-9750H six core .. The preview does not suffer much either .. looks good ... I can detect a difference in smooth playback in favor of the proxies but it is very slight .. So this might be all someone like me needs (preview (half) ) .. we shall see in time ... BUT nice to have tools like HOS if somehow playback at Best (auto) is needed.

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j-v wrote on 11/10/2019, 10:35 AM

Without words 😉:

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xberk wrote on 11/10/2019, 11:30 AM

@j-v ... Nice .. Very smooth .. Is that running on your i7-9700k 8 core?

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j-v wrote on 11/10/2019, 11:41 AM

No, on laptop from signature.

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 566.14 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

xberk wrote on 11/10/2019, 12:01 PM

@j-v .. Impressive. My old i7-3930 6 core does not run that well.

And there in is the rub. From my view, Vegas always does better with a faster CPU.

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j-v wrote on 11/10/2019, 12:20 PM

Not with me, on my desktop it's maybe a very little better, but not much. That desktop has a 4K screen with big previewscreen in Vegas, so maybe that's why it is no more. In Best Full it runs on VPro 17 there 40 fps at the transitions with pan/zoom and during the only pan/zoom 50fps.

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met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 566.14 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

3POINT wrote on 11/10/2019, 3:18 PM

Also remember, when using proxies do not set preview to good or best, because they are not used in that mode.

@xberk what resolution do the proxies have made by HOS?

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