Recording Audio to VEGAS while recording video with OBS

richardpohl wrote on 5/11/2022, 6:09 PM

Hello everyone,

I am not very skilled with tech, but I would like to see how to record multitrack audio from my Audient id44 interface to VEGAS Pro 17, while recording video at the same time with OBS Studio.

Somebody recommended to me Voicemeeter Potato, which I installed, but still not sure how to set it up properly.

Does anybody here have experience with this?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Richard Pohl

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VEGAS Pro 17 Edit novice user.

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Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

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richardpohl wrote on 5/22/2022, 2:23 AM

So I in the end found a way, just recording everything to OBS using the MKV option with multitrack audio (FFMPEG - audio PCM 24bit), then I convert the audio tracks to separate WAVs and convert video to MP4 using the Videoredo software (which is excellent, solved many issues for me already). Thanks everyone.

 

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Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

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Musicvid wrote on 5/22/2022, 9:18 PM

The way you did it gives you the best chance of keeping the audio from drifting and in sync.

There is nothing to make that happen in Vegas, since you are not supplying a slaved sync pulse between the two applications.

richardpohl wrote on 5/23/2022, 12:53 AM

Thank you. Is any chance there is going to be improved VST performance in the VEGAS 20 and VST3 support, perhaps? I have been learning to use Acon Digital Acoustica Premium 7.3 sound editor, which also allows me to share its plugins (all of which work great for me as a beginner) in VEGAS, but even they occassionaly stop working, when the projects gets more loaded (some other plugins are tried had even more issues and I gave up on IzoTope for now, a bit too complicated and I was not able to get them working in VEGAS, only in Sound Forge).

VEGAS Pro 17 Edit novice user.

ASUS Legion Y540-15IRH, Intel Core i7-9750H ,GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 32 GB RAM, Windows 10 64bit, Logitech Brio webcam + CAMO (Huawei P30 Pro)

Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

VEGAS Pro 17 Microsoft Store Edition + SoundForge Pro 14 Microsoft Store Edition + Acon Acoustica 7.3 Premium Edition

richardpohl wrote on 5/23/2022, 1:23 AM

Oh, and if there is anybody familiar enough with the encoder presets, which one would be recommended for the Nvenc encoder here in order to achieve the highest possible quality in the OBS (I would still need to reconvert it in VideoReDo and then import to VEGAS, so I would be happy to have the original MKV video file of higher quality, if possible).

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ASUS Legion Y540-15IRH, Intel Core i7-9750H ,GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 32 GB RAM, Windows 10 64bit, Logitech Brio webcam + CAMO (Huawei P30 Pro)

Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

VEGAS Pro 17 Microsoft Store Edition + SoundForge Pro 14 Microsoft Store Edition + Acon Acoustica 7.3 Premium Edition

Musicvid wrote on 5/23/2022, 7:39 AM

NVENC = Fast, not "highest possible quality." You would use it when high fps is your goal, such as gamers obsess over.

For best quality, you will need to use a software encoder, my current favorite in OBS is x264 using Zerolatency tuning. I stopped using UT because it started crashing Windows security scans. Machine encoders like Nvenc would need to produce files that are over twice as large to even approach a similar quality.

"Size, quality, speed." Pick two.

Musicvid wrote on 5/23/2022, 7:49 AM

@richardpohl 

I loved reading your profile. I am a retired union musician and orchestra conductor for musical theater.

BTW, there are some internal offset adjustments deeper in OBS to help you better sync the notes to your keypresses, if that is what you are recording.

richardpohl wrote on 5/23/2022, 7:46 PM

Thank you for the suggestions, Maestro! My wife is an opera singer, but can sing also the musical theatre quite decently, performing the main part in Miss Saigon many years ago. In my case I do not worry that much about the size, as these OBS recordings would still be edited in the VEGAS and rendered, so it is more about what to set up there in OBS for the original recording. I will try to find about the x264 - Zerolatency, is that some internal option somewhere? Could I ask you for a screenshot from the profile settings?

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VEGAS Pro 17 Edit novice user.

ASUS Legion Y540-15IRH, Intel Core i7-9750H ,GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 32 GB RAM, Windows 10 64bit, Logitech Brio webcam + CAMO (Huawei P30 Pro)

Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

VEGAS Pro 17 Microsoft Store Edition + SoundForge Pro 14 Microsoft Store Edition + Acon Acoustica 7.3 Premium Edition

richardpohl wrote on 5/23/2022, 8:12 PM

@richardpohl 

I loved reading your profile. I am a retired union musician and orchestra conductor for musical theater.

BTW, there are some internal offset adjustments deeper in OBS to help you better sync the notes to your keypresses, if that is what you are recording.

Sounds great, but I am currently OK with the latency I get, the keypress motions seems to be OK even on a closer shot.

VEGAS Pro 17 Edit novice user.

ASUS Legion Y540-15IRH, Intel Core i7-9750H ,GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 32 GB RAM, Windows 10 64bit, Logitech Brio webcam + CAMO (Huawei P30 Pro)

Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

VEGAS Pro 17 Microsoft Store Edition + SoundForge Pro 14 Microsoft Store Edition + Acon Acoustica 7.3 Premium Edition

Musicvid wrote on 5/24/2022, 5:02 PM

 I will try to find about the x264 - Zerolatency, is that some internal option somewhere? Could I ask you for a screenshot from the profile settings?

Something like this maybe?

richardpohl wrote on 5/24/2022, 7:39 PM

Thanks so much! I see you have the CRF option at 20, so any lower value is not needed? No significant difference in the picture quality?

VEGAS Pro 17 Edit novice user.

ASUS Legion Y540-15IRH, Intel Core i7-9750H ,GeForce RTX 2060 6GB, 32 GB RAM, Windows 10 64bit, Logitech Brio webcam + CAMO (Huawei P30 Pro)

Audient id44 audio interface + Aston Origin (vocal mic) + Aston Starlight (stereo paired piano mics)

VEGAS Pro 17 Microsoft Store Edition + SoundForge Pro 14 Microsoft Store Edition + Acon Acoustica 7.3 Premium Edition

Musicvid wrote on 5/25/2022, 10:23 AM

Correct. Generally speaking, values below twenty make more bits, not more quality. .995 SSIM is about optimal for x264, .990 for x265.

todd-b wrote on 5/25/2022, 8:48 PM

Thanks so much! I see you have the CRF option at 20, so any lower value is not needed? No significant difference in the picture quality?

Here is a comparison, very fast option looks very bad in this particular test

I would try FASTER, it's the setting professional streamers use, "Very Fast" for people with lower quality hardware. Faster will produce smaller files too due to higher quality encoding. Personally I use NVENC, Keep in mind with that chart bitrates are limited to streaming bitrates 6mbit/s in this case. VeryFast is a disaster, but given enough bandwidth such as CRF, it along with NVENC will improve in Quality, but produce larger files

You do only have a 6core CPU, so you're not going to be wanting to capture anything CPU intensive, but if so, that's what NVENC is for

john_dennis wrote on 5/27/2022, 6:20 PM

@richardpohl

In Vegas Pro 19-550, you could save yourself a lot of work extracting files by recording directly to ProRes with multiple audio streams.

Vegas Pro 17-455 doesn't see all the streams in what they called "Magix Intermediate", but, in 18 and 19, two 24/48 streams import without drama.

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