Hi,
I'm currently editing 50fps footage in Vegas pro 15 and my project properties is also set to 50fps.
I'm having a problem when I stepframe through my footage, it seems like only every other frame is shown.
Can someone please explain?
Is your project set to interlaced or progressive?
Read here first, section C is is important for you.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/
Hi,
I hope this is what you want, otherwise please let me know.
Screenshot of my project properties:
Here is the properties of my source footage:
Format : MPEG-4 Formatprofil : Base Media / Version 1 Codec-ID : mp41 (mp41) Filstørrelse : 1,84 GiB Varighed : 5 min 49sek. Samlet bitratemodus : Variabel Samlet bitrate : 45,2 Mb/s Kodet den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 Tagged den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 AMBA : x Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Formatprofil : High@L4.2 Formatindstillinger : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames Formatindstillinger, CABC : Ja Formatindstillinger, RefFrames : 1 billede Formatindstillinger, GOP : M=1, N=25 Codec-ID : avc1 Codec-ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Varighed : 5 min 49sek. Bitratemodus : Variabel Bitrate : 45,0 Mb/s Bredde : 1.920 billedpunkter Højde : 1.080 billedpunkter Størrelsesforhold : 16:9 Billedratemodus : Konstant Billedfrekvens : 50,000 FPS Farverum : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bitdybde : 8 bits Skantype : Progressiv Bits/(Billedpunkter*Billed) : 0.434 Strømstørrelse : 1,83 GiB (100%) Titel : GoPro AVC Sprog : Engelsk Kodet den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 Tagged den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 colour_range : Full colour_primaries : BT.709 Overførselskarakteristika : BT.709 Matrix-coefficienter : BT.709 Lyd ID : 2 Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Formatprofil : LC Codec-ID : mp4a-40-2 Varighed : 5 min 49sek. Bitratemodus : Konstant Bitrate : 128 kb/s Kanaler : 2 kanaler Kanalpositioner : Front: L R Samplingsrate : 48,0 kHz Billedfrekvens : 46,875 FPS (1024 SPF) Komprimeringstilstand : Lossy Strømstørrelse : 5,33 MiB (0%) Titel : GoPro AAC Sprog : Engelsk Kodet den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 Tagged den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 Andet #1 ID : 3 Type : Time code Format : QuickTime TC Varighed : 5 min 49sek. TimeCode_FirstFrame : 10:37:26:28 TimeCode_Striped/String : Ja Titel : GoPro TCD Sprog : Engelsk Kodet den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 Tagged den : UTC 2018-05-31 10:37:26 Bitratemodus : CBR Andet #2 Type : meta Varighed : 5 min 49sek. Bitratemodus : VBR Andet #3 Type : meta mdhd_Duration : 349420 Bitratemodus : VBR
Your project settings appear to be 50p and your source media appears to be 50p. Are you zoomed all the way in on the timeline?
Try take a look at this video, it shows what happens when I stepframe through my footage. You can clearly see that only every other frame is changing.
Something very strange here. The time counter is ticking over frame by frame but jumps to the next second after 25 frames not 50!
It may not be relevant, as your source is progressive, try altering Deinterlace method to "None" in Project properties .
In low light my camera can switch to a mode when two exactly the same frames stored twice (I'm able to switch it off).
So technically speaking it is 30p instead on 60p. But 60p container (in media info I see progressive 60p).
I think you should double check if this is not the case for your footage.
Also, you should check how Vegas understand your footage. Check media info in Vegas.
In low light my camera can switch to a mode when two exactly the same frames stored twice (I'm able to switch it off).
So technically speaking it is 30p instead on 60p. But 60p container (in media info I see progressive 60p).
I think you should double check if this is not the case for your footage.
Good point as my Canon can go down to 1/6 sec shutter speed which gives four identical frames at 25 fps.
But there's something more at play here. From Vifa's video you can clearly see the project is 50 fps yet the timeline counter on the left is ticking over to the next second after 25 frames.
On investigating further it could be that the Time display Time Format is set on "SMPTE 25 fps" instead of "Time & Frames". I've only VMS15 to look at but assume Vegas Pro is similar.
But if you watch the counter of the timeline at the bottom, it thinks it is only moving one frame. Try setting your project for 25fps and see what that does.
Hi all,
Thanks for all the replies.
I tried changing the "Deinterlace Method" to "None" - it did nothing.
Then I tried changing the "Time Format" on the timeline. It helped on the counter that now ticks over to the next second at 50fps, but it did no difference while I stepframe.
How can I check my footage and what should I look for?
A video of what I tried:
Right Mouse Button over the media then Properties. What do you have in 'Frame rate' on Media tab?
If it is still 50 then looks like your footage contains duplicate frames and your actual frame rate is 25.
You can try to specify 'Undersample rate' = 0.5 on the Video Event tab or use external tools to drop every other frame.
Hi,
This is a screenshot of my media properties:
I also tried to undersample with 0.5 - but no difference.
Have you tried disabling resampling? Is the footage decoded by the so4compound plugin? If so, try disabling the so4.
Disabling resampling did no difference.
I don't know if the footage is decoded by anyting - but I don't think so. The footage comes directly from my GoPro.
I also tried to undersample with 0.5 - but no difference.
I do not know how it is possible.
RMB | Properties, specify 'untersable rate' as 0.5 (instead of 1.0), pressed OK, then put cursor onto the event you just modified, hit Alt + Right Arrow key a few times and look for see frame duplicates in preview (set it in Best | Full).
Disabling resampling did no difference.
I don't know if the footage is decoded by anyting - but I don't think so. The footage comes directly from my GoPro.
For Vegas to display and edit the video file from your GoPro, it has to decode it and Vegas has several decoders depending on the footage. Read this. I am not saying it will solve the problem but worth a try. Also, upload a short sample to Dropbox for users to download and see what is wrong.
Hi,
Here is a short sample.
Thank you for the sample. Unfortunately that is not a good sample. You are recording two screens which for sure are not displaying 50fps. Do you have anything with objects or people moving?
Here is another one:
The file is 50fps but you have frames duplicated so effectively it is only 25 fps.
I imported the footage iinto a 50fps project and it works fine. Each frame forward the shot moves. this is in Version 12. IF I change it to 25fps, it still works as expected. But if I set deinterlace method to NONE at 50fps project, then I get the stepping that you are getting. At 25fps project it works fine. so, as I suggested earlier, set your project to 25fps.
The file is 50fps but you have frames duplicated so effectively it is only 25 fps.
So you see the same as me? - that only every other frame is changing?
I imported the footage iinto a 50fps project and it works fine. Each frame forward the shot moves. this is in Version 12. IF I change it to 25fps, it still works as expected.
Seriously? .. This makes no sense to me. Why won't it work in my project 😩
Did you change it to 25fps?
No, I don't think so. The properties of the file do also show 50fps.