Vegas pro 18 Renders for 1 second freezes for 2 minutes and repeats

Cameron-Boland wrote on 1/22/2022, 12:41 AM

Hi team

I got Post suite last year, no dramas outside of the normal stuff. Mid December Vegas pro 18 started acting up, it edits fine, but when you go to render, once you hit render the window freezes for a good 5 to 8 minutes before the render begins then will render for a second or less then freeze for 2 to 5 minutes, then continue to do that all the way through until the video if finished.

as far as system usage is concern, it isnt using anything during the freezes except 770mb if memory~. when it does render, I get 500 fps sometimes, this is just legit trying to render a single image of the cheese board from the media generator for 1:10 (I discovered the issue while on a project and this has been how Ive been testing new settings and such).

PC: Windows 10

Ryzen 9 3950x

Radeon RX 6900xt

32gb ram

Gigabyte B550 Master

500gb M.2 is where the program is stored and the render save location

Vegas pro 18 build 527

so far I have tried

  1. defaulting and clearing the cache
  2. removing and reinstalling the program
  3. removing and reinstalling all vegas and magix related software
  4. trialling different settings as per YT users advice
  5. formatting and rebuilding my C drive
  6. updating drivers on GPU

nothing has worked. interestingly enough, I installed Vegas pro17 and it works perfectly fine.

 

Cameron

 

Big Bears Adventures

Comments

Reyfox wrote on 1/22/2022, 6:01 AM

No expert here... I'm rather a noobie with Vegas. But what specifically are you trying to render? What types of files? What created them? Are they and special effects you've used? Titles? Graphics drivers up to date? I can't speak on the RX6000 series of video cards, but vaguely remember problems with it. If you disable graphics and try rendering, results?

Cameron-Boland wrote on 1/22/2022, 6:59 AM

Sorry, that was ment to say chess board. It's the black and white squares pattern from the media generator just to ha e something on the timeline, like I say, up to date drivers, played with the setting's including disabling gpu, running completely default settings. Vegas pro 17 works just fine

Former user wrote on 1/22/2022, 7:30 AM

@Cameron-Boland Hi,

'500gb M.2 is where the program is stored and the render save location'

How much space is left on the 500GB drive & does this happen if you render to a separate hard drive?

What format is the media on the timeline & what format are you rendering with?

Does it do the delay when render video files?

I notice that Vegas renders in 'bursts' when rendering, esp with a jpg 🤷‍♂️

This pic shows 18%, when Vegas is at idle with Chrome open it shows 17%, so very little memory is used during render

rendering jpg

rendering a selection of mp4s

 

 

 

Cameron-Boland wrote on 1/23/2022, 2:11 AM

@Cameron-Boland Hi,

'500gb M.2 is where the program is stored and the render save location'

How much space is left on the 500GB drive & does this happen if you render to a separate hard drive?

What format is the media on the timeline & what format are you rendering with?

Does it do the delay when render video files?

I notice that Vegas renders in 'bursts' when rendering, esp with a jpg 🤷‍♂️

This pic shows 18%, when Vegas is at idle with Chrome open it shows 17%, so very little memory is used during render

rendering jpg

rendering a selection of mp4s

 

 

 

The particular media on the timeline doesnt matter, ive tried all sorts at different lengths, in the tests ive been running, it has just been whatever comes out of the media generator.

as for render format, again, I have tried many, mostly in the 60fps 1080s as thats what I make, but in different codecs and what not

it delays on everything

its not rendering in bursts, the program is freezing, then coming back, then freezing again, not responding

RogerS wrote on 1/23/2022, 2:31 AM

To remove media and Fx from the variables can you render the standard benchmark here without freezes?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking-results-continued--118503/

Download the project and render to MagixAVC with Mainconcept (CPU) and then VCE if you want to test it and see how it works and how times compare to other users with similar hardware.

For your Radeon GPU are you on the Pro/Enterprise driver? That's the one recommended for Vegas.

Former user wrote on 1/23/2022, 8:33 AM

@Cameron-Boland Hi, got to ask 'render a single image of the cheese board from the media generator for 1:10'

cheese board? is that checkerboard ?

& what is 1:10? an aspect ratio or time length?

Cameron-Boland wrote on 1/23/2022, 8:37 AM

Yeah, sorry, Chessboard/checker board.

1:10 being the length of time on the timeline. Can I post video here? If so I can film it and show you what I mean.

I mean, I can drop it in google drive

Former user wrote on 1/23/2022, 8:53 AM

@Cameron-Boland 👍 thought so 😁 I tried 1.10mins checkerboard render, NVENC & Mainconcept without a prob,

Yep use the arrow button next to the smiley at the top of a new comment, Magix AVC 1920 x 1080 is a good ratio i find for uploading on here,

Former user wrote on 1/23/2022, 9:11 AM

@Cameron-Boland Just had a look at the Benchmark results for render, the RX 6800xt & Ryzen 9 3950x are top of the list, there's no combination of the two, CPU & GPU, & although less power than mine i suspect it will beat mine by a fair bit, I've considered getting an Radeon RX 6900xt & replacing my 3090 after looking at these sheets, so it would be interesting what results you get if you did that benchmark once your PC is working properly, 👍

john_dennis wrote on 1/23/2022, 12:23 PM

@Cameron-Boland

"Can I post video here? If so I can film it and show you what I mean."

This is Howie Doit.

RogerS wrote on 1/23/2022, 9:17 PM

@Cameron-Boland Just had a look at the Benchmark results for render, the RX 6800xt & Ryzen 9 3950x are top of the list, there's no combination of the two, CPU & GPU, & although less power than mine i suspect it will beat mine by a fair bit, I've considered getting an Radeon RX 6900xt & replacing my 3090 after looking at these sheets, so it would be interesting what results you get if you did that benchmark once your PC is working properly, 👍

The current list is here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b3ggVifKsuT-cp2kQHjum_KnQ4-2jBmUIvzmu7BQZ34/edit#gid=699797034

(if you want to manually update that Excel spreadsheet I can replace it in Dropbox but am trying to automate this process as much as possible)

Cameron-Boland wrote on 1/23/2022, 10:04 PM

Sorry about the chat in the background, was in a meeting while filming

Kauffy wrote on 3/5/2022, 7:09 PM

I have this exact issue as well, in Vegas Pro 19. I am supremely disappointed in this product and don't know why I keep upgrading.

In my case, the initial freeze before it starts rendering is about five minutes, then, if it renders anything (sometimes, it just crashes here), it renders for 2 seconds, and then freezes for 5-10, though that appears to be project dependent (the benchmark is considerably worse).

It isn't even able to render an SD DV file-- doing nothing to it, just rendering out the file it's imported-- without having this issue-- no matter the template. It makes the product unusable.

Why am I so special that I have all these problems with Vegas? I've been using Vegas since about version 10 or 11, I think-- a long time. I'm not a heavy user, and nearly everything I'm doing currently is SD DV with a tiny bit of HDV. My edits are not at all complicated, either-- one or two video timelines, one to four audio tracks.

I have tried: starting clean (cache/settings), I uninstalled all other versions of Vegas I had (risky, as I used to have to use at least two different versions together to get anything done), I turned off GPU rendering. None of that had any effect.

Oh, and my system: 4790K at ~4.5GHz, 32GB RAM, GPU 1: 1070Ti GPU 2: 960, rendering to empty partition on SSD, project files stored on mechanical disk (but it is cached through an .M2 SSD on the mobo, using PrimoCache).

I'm running the benchmark now, but it's clearly pointless-- it's been running for over 21 minutes minutes and has only rendered 230 frames.

Musicvid wrote on 3/5/2022, 8:19 PM

Please, What media are you render from, what format are you rendering to, and what are you doing to it in between? To help with the details needed to assist you, please start by providing the full information asked for here; I'll ask only once:

IMPORTANT! INFORMATION REQUIRED TO HELP YOU

 

Kauffy wrote on 3/6/2022, 2:27 PM

@Musicvid Just FYI, it doesn't appear to matter what format I am rendering from or to, but below is the info you asked for for one that does not work properly.

Also, info that may be pertinent: Project files are all on local hard disk. Rendering out to separate SSD (dedicated, empty partition).

Vegas 19.0 (Build 458)
Windows 10 Home version 21H2
Footage from any source, but specifically, Standard Def DV from a Hi-8 Sony Handicam, also same footage upsampled to 60fps in MKV format
Rendering out to format similar to source format: standard def, 60 fps

Symptoms: Rendering anything causes an application freeze initially (upon clicking "Render") for about five minutes, then rendering then alternates between two seconds of render and five to 10 seconds frozen.

The source file of the project's MediaInfo

General
Complete name                            : D:\Capture\WV\West Virginia - Sightseeing Mine 3, Grandparents.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name                          : DV
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 25.8 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 29.9 Mb/s
TAPE                                     : West Virginia #3
TCOD                                     : 1671863860333
TCDO                                     : 1745928184000
VMAJ                                     : 4
VMIN                                     : 0
STAT                                     : 221971 0 3.427077 1
DTIM                                     : 0 0

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : DV
Codec ID                                 : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint                            : Sony
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 24.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate                      : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:1:1
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.357
Stream size                              : 24.8 GiB (96%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 024 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 32.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 904 MiB (3%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 267  ms (8.00 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration             : 266  ms

Vegas Properties:

General
  Name: West Virginia - Sightseeing Mine 3, Grandparents.avi
  Folder: D:\Capture\WV
  Type: Video for Windows
  Size: 27.01 GB (27,661,824,000 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 01:34:11
  Modified: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 01:41:11
  Accessed: Sunday, March 6, 2022, 11:41:17
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 02:03:26.432, 29.970 fps interlaced, 720x480x24, DV
  Audio: 02:03:26.432, 32,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, Uncompressed

Capture
  Tape Name: West Virginia #3
  Recorded: 0 0
  Version: 4.0
  Comment:
  Rating:
  Statistics
    Captured frames: 221971
    Dropped frames: 0
    Data rate: 3.427077

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: aviplug.dll
  Folder: D:\Program Files\Vegas\Vegas Pro 19.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aviplug
  Format: Video for Windows
  Version: Version 19.0 (Build 458)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

I can get you footage if you need it, but I haven't found a file yet that works properly.

I have two GPU's:

nVidia 1070Ti
nVidia 960GTX

Both using driver: 30.0.14.9649

This happens whether GPU acceleration is on or off.

"Enable hardware decoding for supported formats" is not an option in my File I/O preferences. "Enable MKV Reader (Experimental)" has no apparent effect (same problem whether this is on or off).

"Hardware Decoder To Use" is set to Auto (NVIDIA NVDEC)

Machine Info:

OS Name    Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version    10.0.19044 Build 19044
Other OS Description     Not Available
OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
System Name    GLADOS
System Manufacturer    MSI
System Model    MS-7917
System Type    x64-based PC
System SKU    To be filled by O.E.M.
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4201 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V1.13, 2016-02-16
SMBIOS Version    2.8
Embedded Controller Version    255.255
BIOS Mode    UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer    MSI
BaseBoard Product    Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
BaseBoard Version    1.0
Platform Role    Desktop
Secure Boot State    Off
PCR7 Configuration    Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory    C:\WINDOWS
System Directory    C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale    United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "10.0.19041.1503"
User Name    GLADOS\fletc
Time Zone    Pacific Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    32.0 GB
Total Physical Memory    31.9 GB
Available Physical Memory    4.57 GB
Total Virtual Memory    120 GB
Available Virtual Memory    55.8 GB
Page File Space    87.9 GB
Page File    F:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection    Off
Virtualization-based security    Not enabled
Device Encryption Support    Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions    Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions    Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware    Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection    Yes

Info about the disk being rendered from:

(This disk is cached using PrimoCache-- the problem occurs with the caching on or off)

Description    Disk drive
Manufacturer    (Standard disk drives)
Model    ST4000DM004-2CV104
Bytes/Sector    512
Media Loaded    Yes
Media Type    Fixed hard disk
Partitions    4
SCSI Bus    3
SCSI Logical Unit    0
SCSI Port    1
SCSI Target ID    0
Sectors/Track    63
Size    3.64 TB (4,000,784,417,280 bytes)
Total Cylinders    486,401
Total Sectors    7,814,032,065
Total Tracks    124,032,255
Tracks/Cylinder    255
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #0
Partition Size    3.54 TB (3,895,791,190,016 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    135,266,304 bytes
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #1
Partition Size    3.91 GB (4,194,304,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    3,895,929,602,048 bytes
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #2
Partition Size    21.48 GB (23,068,672,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    3,900,123,906,048 bytes
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #3
Partition Size    72.26 GB (77,593,575,424 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    3,923,192,578,048 bytes

Disk being rendered to (Partition #2):

Description    Disk drive
Manufacturer    (Standard disk drives)
Model    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB
Bytes/Sector    512
Media Loaded    Yes
Media Type    Fixed hard disk
Partitions    3
SCSI Bus    2
SCSI Logical Unit    0
SCSI Port    1
SCSI Target ID    0
Sectors/Track    63
Size    465.76 GB (500,105,249,280 bytes)
Total Cylinders    60,801
Total Sectors    976,768,065
Total Tracks    15,504,255
Tracks/Cylinder    255
Partition    Disk #3, Partition #0
Partition Size    49.37 GB (53,011,808,256 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    1,048,576 bytes
Partition    Disk #3, Partition #1
Partition Size    98.27 GB (105,514,008,576 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    53,012,856,832 bytes
Partition    Disk #3, Partition #2
Partition Size    97.66 GB (104,857,600,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    158,526,865,408 bytes

Apologies for not including this info earlier.

 

Last changed by Kauffy on 3/6/2022, 2:46 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

i7-4790K 4.7Ghz
nVidia 1070Ti
nVidia 960
32GB RAM
6TB mechanical storage, cached with 1TB SSD (M.2)
OS on SSD (SATA)
Rendering to separate SSD on its own partition.
 

Musicvid wrote on 3/6/2022, 2:35 PM

You did not provide MediaInfo or Vegas File Properties for any of "this:"

It makes a difference!

Footage from any source, ..., also same footage upsampled to 60fps in MKV format
Rendering out to format similar to source format: standard def, 60 fps

AVI source writes its TEMP file as 5 frames in buffer, 5 frames out IIRC. Is this what you are noticing? It is absolutely normal behavior.

Kauffy wrote on 3/6/2022, 2:58 PM

@Musicvid Just FYI, it doesn't appear to matter what format I am rendering from or to, but below is the info you asked for for one that does not work properly.

Also, info that may be pertinent: Project files are all on local hard disk. Rendering out to separate SSD (dedicated, empty partition).

Vegas 19.0 (Build 458)
Windows 10 Home version 21H2
Footage from any source, but specifically, Standard Def DV from a Hi-8 Sony Handicam, also same footage upsampled to 60fps in MKV format
Rendering out to format similar to source format: standard def, 60 fps

Symptoms: Rendering anything causes an application freeze initially (upon clicking "Render") for about five minutes, then rendering then alternates between two seconds of render and five to 10 seconds frozen.

The source file of the project's MediaInfo

General
Complete name                            : D:\Capture\WV\West Virginia - Sightseeing Mine 3, Grandparents.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name                          : DV
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 25.8 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 29.9 Mb/s
TAPE                                     : West Virginia #3
TCOD                                     : 1671863860333
TCDO                                     : 1745928184000
VMAJ                                     : 4
VMIN                                     : 0
STAT                                     : 221971 0 3.427077 1
DTIM                                     : 0 0

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : DV
Codec ID                                 : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint                            : Sony
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 24.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate                      : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:1:1
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.357
Stream size                              : 24.8 GiB (96%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 024 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 32.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 904 MiB (3%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 267  ms (8.00 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration             : 266  ms

Vegas Properties:

General
  Name: West Virginia - Sightseeing Mine 3, Grandparents.avi
  Folder: D:\Capture\WV
  Type: Video for Windows
  Size: 27.01 GB (27,661,824,000 bytes)
  Created: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 01:34:11
  Modified: Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 01:41:11
  Accessed: Sunday, March 6, 2022, 11:41:17
  Attributes: Archive

Streams
  Video: 02:03:26.432, 29.970 fps interlaced, 720x480x24, DV
  Audio: 02:03:26.432, 32,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, Uncompressed

Capture
  Tape Name: West Virginia #3
  Recorded: 0 0
  Version: 4.0
  Comment:
  Rating:
  Statistics
    Captured frames: 221971
    Dropped frames: 0
    Data rate: 3.427077

ACID information
  ACID chunk: no
  Stretch chunk: no
  Stretch list: no
  Stretch info2: no
  Beat markers: no
  Detected beats: no

Other metadata
  Regions/markers: no
  Command markers: no

Media manager
  Media tags: no

Plug-In
  Name: aviplug.dll
  Folder: D:\Program Files\Vegas\Vegas Pro 19.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aviplug
  Format: Video for Windows
  Version: Version 19.0 (Build 458)
  Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

I can get you footage if you need it, but I haven't found a file yet that works properly.

I have two GPU's:

nVidia 1070Ti
nVidia 960GTX

Both using driver: 30.0.14.9649

This happens whether GPU acceleration is on or off.

"Enable hardware decoding for supported formats" is not an option in my File I/O preferences. "Enable MKV Reader (Experimental)" has no apparent effect (same problem whether this is on or off).

"Hardware Decoder To Use" is set to Auto (NVIDIA NVDEC)

 

 

Machine Info:

OS Name    Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version    10.0.19044 Build 19044
Other OS Description     Not Available
OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
System Name    GLADOS
System Manufacturer    MSI
System Model    MS-7917
System Type    x64-based PC
System SKU    To be filled by O.E.M.
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz, 4201 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V1.13, 2016-02-16
SMBIOS Version    2.8
Embedded Controller Version    255.255
BIOS Mode    UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer    MSI
BaseBoard Product    Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917)
BaseBoard Version    1.0
Platform Role    Desktop
Secure Boot State    Off
PCR7 Configuration    Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory    C:\WINDOWS
System Directory    C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device    \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale    United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer    Version = "10.0.19041.1503"
User Name    GLADOS\fletc
Time Zone    Pacific Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)    32.0 GB
Total Physical Memory    31.9 GB
Available Physical Memory    4.57 GB
Total Virtual Memory    120 GB
Available Virtual Memory    55.8 GB
Page File Space    87.9 GB
Page File    F:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection    Off
Virtualization-based security    Not enabled
Device Encryption Support    Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions    Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions    Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware    Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection    Yes

Info about the disk being rendered from:

(This disk is cached using PrimoCache-- the problem occurs with the caching on or off)

Description    Disk drive
Manufacturer    (Standard disk drives)
Model    ST4000DM004-2CV104
Bytes/Sector    512
Media Loaded    Yes
Media Type    Fixed hard disk
Partitions    4
SCSI Bus    3
SCSI Logical Unit    0
SCSI Port    1
SCSI Target ID    0
Sectors/Track    63
Size    3.64 TB (4,000,784,417,280 bytes)
Total Cylinders    486,401
Total Sectors    7,814,032,065
Total Tracks    124,032,255
Tracks/Cylinder    255
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #0
Partition Size    3.54 TB (3,895,791,190,016 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    135,266,304 bytes
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #1
Partition Size    3.91 GB (4,194,304,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    3,895,929,602,048 bytes
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #2
Partition Size    21.48 GB (23,068,672,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    3,900,123,906,048 bytes
Partition    Disk #4, Partition #3
Partition Size    72.26 GB (77,593,575,424 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    3,923,192,578,048 bytes

Disk being rendered to (Partition #2):

Description    Disk drive
Manufacturer    (Standard disk drives)
Model    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB
Bytes/Sector    512
Media Loaded    Yes
Media Type    Fixed hard disk
Partitions    3
SCSI Bus    2
SCSI Logical Unit    0
SCSI Port    1
SCSI Target ID    0
Sectors/Track    63
Size    465.76 GB (500,105,249,280 bytes)
Total Cylinders    60,801
Total Sectors    976,768,065
Total Tracks    15,504,255
Tracks/Cylinder    255
Partition    Disk #3, Partition #0
Partition Size    49.37 GB (53,011,808,256 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    1,048,576 bytes
Partition    Disk #3, Partition #1
Partition Size    98.27 GB (105,514,008,576 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    53,012,856,832 bytes
Partition    Disk #3, Partition #2
Partition Size    97.66 GB (104,857,600,000 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset    158,526,865,408 bytes

Apologies for not including this info earlier.

 

Kauffy wrote on 3/6/2022, 2:59 PM

@Musicvid I didn't expect you'd respond so quickly-- I realized I hadn't finished adding the info, so I went back and edited the comment to include it, and added a second example.

Former user wrote on 3/6/2022, 3:31 PM

 

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : DV
Codec ID                                 : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint                            : Sony
Duration                                 : 2 h 3 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 24.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Original frame rate                      : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:1:1
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.357
Stream size                              : 24.8 GiB (96%)

 

 

@Kauffy Hi, someone will decipher your info but one thing i want to point out is in your pics it shows 59.94 frame rate but your media info shows 29.97 frame rate.

Musicvid wrote on 3/6/2022, 3:31 PM

I haven't had anything like what your are describing happen since I started doing commercial DV-AVI multicamera shoots 20+ years ago, editing with Vegas 2, 8, 10, 14, 18, and 19. My current system is a lowly i5 8750 with onboard Intel 620 graphics.

The Highlight Video in my signature area started with exactly the same footage specs as yours.

So that's why I asked for your output (render) file properties, but I may not be able to help, even if or when you choose to provide those. Best of luck.

Musicvid wrote on 3/6/2022, 3:39 PM

@Former user makes a good point. Your project properties do not match DV-AVI source, which is interlaced, LFF.

Former user wrote on 3/6/2022, 3:48 PM

@Kauffy HI, i'm curious & don't know enough but you say

I have two GPU's:

nVidia 1070Ti
nVidia 960GTX

Both using driver: 30.0.14.9649

From everything i know using two cards doesn't work well if they're different cards, have you tried removing the 960, the 1070ti should be good enough

PS try removing the 960, install Geforce Experience & make sure you have the latest Studio graphics driver,

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/geforce-experience/

Kauffy wrote on 3/6/2022, 5:12 PM

@Musicvid I do see the framerate difference-- it's because I swapped out the source file, but it makes no difference to the rendering problem. I ran the Benchmark last night and had the same issue. I just attempted a new project from an existing 720p template, and generate color bars. I went to Render it, and before I could even pick the template, Vegas closed to desktop.

Also, I did include the output template settings, per the instructions on the page you referred me to. I had initially missed that part, but put them in on the original post.

It does the same thing with this source/output. Note the render performance at the end. To be real clear: it's rendering like gangbusters (100-200fps) for about 2 seconds, then it halts completely (Task Manager shows Vegas as Not Responding) for 5-10 seconds, then it will render for 2 seconds again, ad nausea.

  Folder: D:\Capture\KB DVD
  Type: AVC
  Size: 10.10 GB (10,344,035,515 bytes)
  Created: Thursday, July 23, 2020, 19:12:01
  Modified: Tuesday, March 16, 2021, 23:42:36
  Accessed: Sunday, March 6, 2022, 14:21:30
  Attributes:

Streams
  Video: 02:04:05.488, 59.941 (VFR) fps progressive, 720x480x32, AVC

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i7-4790K 4.7Ghz
nVidia 1070Ti
nVidia 960
32GB RAM
6TB mechanical storage, cached with 1TB SSD (M.2)
OS on SSD (SATA)
Rendering to separate SSD on its own partition.
 

Kauffy wrote on 3/6/2022, 5:28 PM

@Former user Vegas seems okay with both GPU's-- in 17 or 18, I remember an option to actually benchmark to see what combination of GPUs and CPU render fastest. More to the point, though, I did not have anything like this issue with 17-- I had huge issues attempting to render anything in 18, but in a completely different way (it would render black screen, or black quadrants over my video).

This issue occurs whether GPU is turned on or off in Vegas.