Canon C-log3 video files

Musicvid wrote on 9/4/2021, 4:49 PM

There is not a product named "Sony Vegas 17."

Please look at your splash screen, and tell us which version of Vegas software you are using.

"Not Responding" is not "crashing" It might mean it's thinking.

For peer help with your issues, start here:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Dmitrijs-Bindemanis wrote on 9/4/2021, 4:52 PM

VEGAS Pro 17.0

Former user wrote on 9/4/2021, 8:30 PM

It doesn't work on VP18 either, files playback at 0.2fps in VP19 for me, If VP19 trial loads and plays back your system is fine, VP17 is broken and nothing you do

RogerS wrote on 9/4/2021, 8:52 PM

That can happen when your camera and the media it uses is newer than your editing software!

If you want more specific help share MediaInfo for the media you are using (4K, FHD, frame rate, etc. don't really matter here, so set whatever you normally use)

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-to-post-mediainfo-and-vegas-pro-file-properties--104561/

You might consider transcoding to a format that works in Vegas using software like Handbrake.

Former user wrote on 9/4/2021, 10:17 PM

@RogerS there is a sample here if you wanted to check if intel decoder works with the camera

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d3xcy1ef2ls8okt/AABvApeFYbpBKZtJnnAUwrgHa?dl=0&preview=R6_T3414.MP4

That's 4:2:2 actually. Howard could try it

Yelandkeil wrote on 9/5/2021, 12:37 AM

@Dmitrijs-Bindemanis, you don't show your hardware, so I don't know why.

I have VP19 and 18, both of them have no problem with your Canon-footage, in SDR and HDR environments.

But I have a (very) weak GPU, alone with MPC-HD-Player this 4k60pHEVC-footage needs 50% effort GPU to go.

In VEGAS, my preview is set to GOOD-Quarter, even so I can only watch it running after a dynamicRAM preview-building:

Yelandkeil wrote on 9/5/2021, 12:58 AM

Convert to ProRes422Lite with XmediaRecoder, it goes way acceptable:

Former user wrote on 9/5/2021, 12:59 AM

@Yelandkeil what fps are you playing back those 60fps HEVC 422 videos?

If you are getting full FPS playback in VP18 would you mind taking a screen shot of that and also showing task manager with GPU info?

And you're using your Ryzen computer with Nvidia GPU?

Yelandkeil wrote on 9/5/2021, 1:20 AM

@Former user

3, see my signature

2, only with transcoded ProRes I can get about 45fps, both in VP18/19, the GPU-function is accelerating not decoding

1, 0fps with...; after dynamicRAM (ca. 5sec in GOOD-Quarter preview resolusion) stuttering 50fps

PSto1:

in 8-bit modus, the dynamicRAM preview is flott fullfps:

RogerS wrote on 9/5/2021, 3:54 AM

FYI- MediaInfo for the Todd B file. It's HEVC 60p 10 bit 4:2:2. That has to be the most editing unfriendly format in existence : ) I get <20fps on average in Media Player Classic. This is meant to be transcoded for editing.

It loads and plays back in VP 19, but quite poorly (<1fps in 8-bit full). The file works well with a proxy. The built-in LUT for C-log 3 seems okay as a starting point, too.

General
Complete name                  : T3414.MP4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                       : mp42 (mp42/hvc1/CAEP)
File size                      : 2.16 GiB
Duration                       : 54 s 521 ms
Overall bit rate               : 340 Mb/s
Encoded date                   : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15
Tagged date                    : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Format Range@L5.2@High
Codec ID                       : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                  : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                       : 54 s 521 ms
Bit rate                       : 340 Mb/s
Width                          : 3 840 pixels
Height                         : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:2
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.684
Stream size                    : 2.16 GiB (100%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15
Tagged date                    : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15
Color range                    : Full
Color primaries                : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
Codec configuration box        : hvcC

Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : AAC LC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                       : mp4a-40-2
Duration                       : 54 s 507 ms
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Channel layout                 : L R
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 1.65 MiB (0%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15
Tagged date                    : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15

Other
ID                             : 3
Type                           : Time code
Format                         : QuickTime TC
Duration                       : 54 s 521 ms
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Frame rate                     : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Time code of first frame       : 02:37:09;26
Time code, striped             : Yes
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15
Tagged date                    : UTC 2020-09-20 23:28:15

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 9/5/2021, 10:13 AM

@Dmitrijs-Bindemanis Just tried the clip @Former user uploaded and it's indeed hevc 422 10-bit mp4 and can confirm it's an instant crash here on vp17.455. I'm guessing that's the format you recorded in and that if you're using c-log, you've got the latest R6 firmware. To get better feedback, you'd have to upload a sample of your R6 clip and tell us a little more about your computer and firmware... particularly your computer's cpu and gpu.

Todd's clip loads ok in vp18 and vp19 but only plays smoothly on my 11900k whose igpu can decode that format in hardware. If you want to keep it small, transcode to hevc 420 10-bit. ffmpeg can do that. The R6 doesn't shoot hevc 420 10-bit but that would decode if your system can handle it... I've heard there may be a firmware update across the Canon line to record hevc 420 mp4 later this year. For now you'll probably be better off shooting 8-bit avc 420.

Dmitrijs-Bindemanis wrote on 9/6/2021, 3:03 AM

My PC specs:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10920X CPU
12 cores, each core is clocked to 5Ghz
Installed RAM: 64,0 GB (63,7 GB usable)
3200Mhz CL14
Video card: NVIDIA GTX 1080ti

Former user wrote on 9/6/2021, 9:38 PM

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10920X CPU

Processors with names ending in X or F don't have an IGPU, and that's what you need for increased compatibility in vegas, so you have choice to use Nvidia decoder or No decoder. VIdeos with 422 HEVC won't be assisted by any 10 series IGPU. The higher end 11 series support it and most likely the new intel processors coming out in a couple of months

Dmitrijs-Bindemanis wrote on 9/8/2021, 9:46 AM

Downloaded trial version 19.0 (build 341).

Good news - I can playback Canon Clog3 video files and even edit. FPS is low, but at least I can do something.

Bad news - MAGIX is pushing me to spend extra money for upgrade?

Yelandkeil wrote on 9/8/2021, 10:19 AM

@Dmitrijs-Bindemanis, honestly I find no real reason to upgrade from VP18 to VP19 for me.

But I'm curious. After testing 2 weeks I decide to do it.

The one is, the SenceDetection useful.

The main one is, the upgrade charges only 119Euro; think how much work they afforded the whole year...think what will happen if without our support.

Bad for me is, last time I could upgrade from the US-site and spare some money. This time I'm beatback to Germany.