@Rich Parry

• Thanks for sharing your wonderful Sierra photos by email. As you can see, Color Management using the AdobeRGB LUT in Vegas works perfectly.
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• Your comment about "enhancement" using AdobeRGB makes me think you are confusing Color Grading with Color Management. These two uses for LUTS are as different as night and day, and discussions must remain forever separate. AdobeRGB is not a color grading plugin...
• When using LUTS produced especially for Color Grading, common practice is to start at 30-50%. Otherwise yes, most will look garish. Hope this helps; although there are many kinds of LUTS in my folder, I am providing no instruction for their use other than confirming that the Color Management LUTS do indeed work correctly. I hope this becomes clear to "everyone".
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• (Did you know that uploading images to the forum and PM don't work, because they are processed, and all color management information is lost?)

Here is an example of the Color Management LUT, and adding a grading LUT for a pleasing image enhancement in Vegas.

Bottom is unmanaged. Top is AdobeRGB plus Panasonic Golden2 grading at only 10%. A slight shadow and gamma lift and we get this:

Sony RX10M4. If you hover your cursor over the file, Windows should tell you that information.

Let me know if that's not the case for you. I do have a lot of different software installed that might help with that.

Do you have the Microsoft Camera RAW Extension installed?

Yes, installing that extension revealed the properties. Adobe DNG converter made a file from your ARW that opens in Irfanview, but not in my tired Photoshop CS2.

Having fun and luck with the Canon Cinema Gamut C-log LUTS. Footage is from an EOS-R.

DNG converter should be able to do that if you set compatibility in preferences to ACR 2.4 and later (I'm also using an ancient version of Photoshop with new ARW files).

I just got a laptop that comes with Adobe RGB display and I couldn't figure out how to make it display SRGB range only. My preview window shows very saturated image. Is there a way to create a LUT that forces preview to display in SRGB range only?

I just got a laptop that comes with Adobe RGB display and I couldn't figure out how to make it display SRGB range only. My preview window shows very saturated image. Is there a way to create a LUT that forces preview to display in SRGB range only?

Hardware calibrate the screen and it will work fine in Vegas (I'm using an AdobeRGB widegamut display myself). In a pinch, download the manufacturer's ICC profile for the screen, add using Windows Color Management app and then set as the default for this monitor.

Hardware calibrate the screen and it will work fine in Vegas (I'm using an AdobeRGB widegamut display myself). In a pinch, download the manufacturer's ICC profile for the screen, add using Windows Color Management app and then set as the default for this monitor.

The laptop (Aero 17XC) was hardware calibrated at the factory/Pantone certified. It is currently using the factory calibration ICC profile. I compared the display with my calibrated Asus Proart monitor and the colors match very closely when I enabled color management on supported softwares (e.g. irfanview, firefox) but can't figure out how to do it in Vegas. I'm using v16 btw. Does v18 support laptop monitor color management?

Vegas does not differentiate ICC monitor profiles, if that is what you are asking.

The way I see it, Photoshop et al may display correctly with no color management or stock sRGB internally, you will have to play with it.

Windows uses ICC profiles, which you can change at will by typing "Color Management" into the Windows search box in the lower left corner of your screen. For your convenience, both the stock sRGB LUT and ICC Profile are included in my package for you to play with. Since I make my own monitor profiles that exactly match my scanner and printer, I can tell you that it is easiest just to make a Windows Restor Point, rather than switching stuff back and forth in a Windows environment, because sometimes things get confused, and open programs do not always respond correctly.

If you get stumped, I can try to make a conversion LUT for you to use in Vegas that will dumb down the colors, but no promises.

For your convenience, both the stock sRGB LUT and ICC Profile are included in my package for you to play with.

I didn't see sRGB LUT and ICC in your LUT package. Did I miss something? I played around with the LUTs. Thanks for making them, btw. It seems that VideoNTSC looks the closest to SRGB on my display although it lost some black level. I'll install v18 trial to see if it there's any difference. I saw that Premiere has a display color management feature. It would be great to have that feature in Vegas since more displays exceed SRGB range nowadays!

Screenshot of my wide gamut display of Vegas vs Photoshop- they're pretty much the same. Can you confirm that the original PNG image was saved as sRGB?

Also, you should have an ICC or ICM for sRGB as part of Windows. Look in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color

Did you check Windows Color management and confirm the displays are using the ICC profiles as expected?

One thing that differs between VP 18 and VP 16 is how video vs full levels are handled. If you put photos on a timeline with limited range video in VP 18 the levels will be interpreted correctly. In 16 you need to wrangle them by hand (computer to studio RGB levels preset to get the photos to match limited range video, for example).

I agree it would be nice if Vegas were ICC aware, especially for wide gamut images. I don't think other NLEs do this so Vegas could be ahead.

Screenshot of my wide gamut display of Vegas vs Photoshop- they're pretty much the same.

Will definitely try out your suggestions over the weekend. Thanks! I didn't know that Adobe RGB display would create headaches. I would've considered sRGB/P3 laptop instead if I knew then lol.

Oh you will be glad you got it.

For your convenience, both the stock sRGB LUT and ICC Profile are included in my package for you to play with.

I didn't see sRGB LUT and ICC in your LUT package. Did I miss something? I played around with the LUTs. Thanks for making them, btw. It seems that VideoNTSC looks the closest to SRGB on my display although it lost some black level. I'll install v18 trial to see if it there's any difference. I saw that Premiere has a display color management feature. It would be great to have that feature in Vegas since more displays exceed SRGB range nowadays!

 

Sorry to be so late with a response. I was hospitalized shortly after your post, and I'm just now going through some of my older threads to tie up loose ends.

The ones you mentioned are in the "Photo and Monitor Profile LUTS" folder. You should imply that the suffix "...to sRGB" is added to most LUTs named in that folder, and also note that the ICCs are in a subfolder of that directory.

Also, for all purposes related to this discussion, you may imply that "709" = "sRGB," as any actual distinctions are meaningless for video production.

@andrewcg

Sorry to be so late with a response. I was hospitalized shortly after your post, and I'm just now going through some of my older threads to tie up loose ends.

The ones you mentioned are in the "Photo and Monitor Profile LUTS" folder. You should imply that the suffix "...to sRGB" is added to most LUTs named in that folder, and also note that the ICCs are in a subfolder of that directory.

Also, for all purposes related to this discussion, you may imply that "709" = "sRGB," as any actual distinctions are meaningless for video production.

Sorry to hear that you had to be hospitalized. I hope you are ok!

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Musicvid's google drive link is not valid anymore.

Accidentaly i recorded in PP10 BT2020 with my ZV E10 cam, and now want to render, upload, etc in rec709 format. What should i do in Vegas 19?

LUT filter need lut files, which i dont have :)

@relaxvideo The link in his profile seems to work:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12q-Ehteq7q7rYHiX7Kwtp2C2GpQwrXZ5/view?usp=sharing