So I bought Vegas Pro because it does seem to use the GPU somewhat. It still does not compare to MS 2022 performance when rendering. I tested multiple times prior to removing MS 2022 and made sure I chose profiles that were as close to identical as possible. The render is not smooth like it was with MS 2022. In Vegas Pro is surges. CPU usage is higher than with MS 2022 and GPU usage is lower.

Edition     Windows 10 Home
Version     21H2
OS build     19044.1387
Processor     Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz   3.60 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB
System type     64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Graphics Geforce RTX 3090
Driver DCH 472.84

I am using software that shows GPU usage and unlike MS 2022, it never gets up to near 100. It usually hits around 50 to 60%. I am capturing at 3840x1600 with bitrate of around 48k bps.

Can you place here a screenshot of Options/Preferences/Video and Options/Preferences/File I/0 at the moment you are seeing what you probably don't like to see?

@RickJameBish There's a few posts on here about that, people have differing opinions, I personally put together a dozen 4k clips making a 25min project, Vegas rendered in 14mins but Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium rendered in 5mins, I can't point you to a certain post but it has been commented on about how much Vegas does or doesn't use of the available power in the PC. there's no magic button in Vegas to improve this 😒🤷‍♂️

This is one post https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/small-project-failing-to-render-past-26-bug-report-project-included--132745/?page=3#ca829229

For sure, VP doesn't use the GPU as much as other software. But for me, there is more to editing than just fast rendering. It's the entire editing experience.

And as @EricLNZ replied, MS2022 is not a Vegas product, but a Magix/Movie Edit Pro product. Magix has updated the render engine in that product to equal Video Pro X. I had Movie Edit Pro for a couple of years. It worked ok for me. I'm glad you are happy with it.

Maybe one day Vegas will update the rendering engines to take more advantage of the advanced hardware most video editors have.

On a system with a good CPU, 20-30% GPU utilization during render is good ...

@RickJameBish

Edition     Windows 10 Home
Version     21H2
OS build     19044.1387
Processor     Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz   3.60 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB
System type     64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Graphics Geforce RTX 3090
Driver DCH 472.84

btw if you click on your icon at the top of this page - My Profile - Signature, copy n paste the info you put about your pc in there, it will then be at the bottom of your comments for people to ref to 👍

@RickJameBish I'd be interested in your results if you try this test, I have an RTX3090 but a Threadripper CPU, the i9's seem to do well in this test's results

I don't think there is an i9 + RTX 3090 combo in the list,

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking-results-continued--118503/

@RickJameBish I'd be interested in your results if you try this test, I have an RTX3090 but a Threadripper CPU, the i9's seem to do well in this test's results

I don't think there is an i9 + RTX 3090 combo in the list,

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking-results-continued--118503/

Let me head stop spinning from messing with all this the past few days and I will run that. Thanks for the tip on signature and system specs.

Also thanks to all the other responses. Hopefully Vegas gets improved to use the GPU more effectively. It is using it to some degree so I cannot complain. I could not get MS 17 Platinum to use it all.

@RickJameBish I'd be interested in your results if you try this test, I have an RTX3090 but a Threadripper CPU, the i9's seem to do well in this test's results

I don't think there is an i9 + RTX 3090 combo in the list,

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/benchmarking-results-continued--118503/

I downloaded the zip. Chose the project and it imported it all. Not quite sure which preset I am supposed to select and what resolution to output, etc. The spreadsheet seems to be all over the place.

@RickJameBish Been there done that, when I upgraded to Vegas I was a little disappointed with it's lack of use of the power available, so I tried alsorts to try get better performance, like I say there is no magic button/s, my Vegas is pretty much at default settings,

I've turned on Live save in Tools - Advanced Save, once you've saved the project somewhere, Vegas will save after every edit, so when it does crash you can return to the last point/edit,

Dynamic ram is mentioned as working better when low or at 0, but i don't notice any difference, I've 256GB so i've a decent amount set so i can build Dynamic Ram on areas that don't play well, transitions or heavy effects etc..

You've got an Intel CPU so it might be a little different for you, 🤷‍♂️ Yeah it'd be good to see Vegas look like it's using more power, my Taskmanager shows the settings rarely above 30-40%-ish 👍

This is mine rendering 4k

@RickJameBish In the download the Excel sheets are named (sorted on render times) & (sorted on AVG FPS), there's a picture with an explanation of how the screen should look at playback & there's pics of the render templates, ,

on the timeline in Vegas, click 1 on the keyboard, that will select 'Region 1', the preview screen should be at Best (Full) note the lowest & highest playback rate, add the highest & lowest together then divide by 2, that will give the average fps,

Render templates are in the pics in the link where you downloaded the benchmark project & in the download you got,

The settings are also shown in this thread/post https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/help-needed-choosing-new-gpu--133213/#ca830764

@RickJameBish In the download are some Excel sheets giving render times based on playback fps & render times, a picture with an explanation & the project files,

on the timeline in Vegas, click 1 on the keyboard, that will select 'Region 1', the preview screen should be at Best (Full) note the lowest & highest playback rate, add the highest & lowest together then divide by 2, that will give the average fps,

Render templates are in the pics in the link where you downloaded the benchmark project & in the download you got,

 

 

 

After seeing your windows performance graph, I pulled that up while mine encoded. Im not sure now that it is using my graphics card. My max GPU percentage throughout the whole encode process was 13% and my CPU max was 19%. Oddly enough though the program that came with my logitech keyboard displays the usage on my phone and it shows 80% GPU usage.

@RickJameBish Yeah it's quite disappointing when you see it just trot along 😒

Forgot to say on the Magix AVC/AAC 1920 x 1080 HD render settings are default I think but the UHD bitrate is 50,000 & 28,000, not the default setting.

@RickJameBish Check these two in your Preferences

@RickJameBish Check these two in your Preferences

Yes, with the exception of difference in ram amount, my settings match those.

Can you place here a screenshot of Options/Preferences/Video and Options/Preferences/File I/0 at the moment you are seeing what you probably don't like to see?

I also tried lowering Dynamic Ram to 0 and enabling legacy AVC. Quite a let down that a $75 program whips this at hardware encoding.

@RickJameBish
My last attempt to help you.
Seeing your processor "Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz   3.60 GHz", I know you have an extra and good plus fast GPU, the "Intel® UHD Graphics 630"
If this does not show up this is probably not activated in the BIOS.
If you manage this you'll have a fast and good machine, unless using the latest videodrivers like mine , look

In that case the default setting in File I/O will be other than you have now , because Vegas find itself its best settings for CPU and GPU('s)

@RickJameBish
My last attempt to help you.
Seeing your processor "Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz   3.60 GHz", I know you have an extra and good plus fast GPU, the "Intel® UHD Graphics 630"
If this does not show up this is probably not activated in the BIOS.
If you manage this you'll have a fast and good machine, unless using the latest videodrivers like mine , look

In that case the default setting in File I/O will be other than you have now , because Vegas find itself its best settings for CPU and GPU('s)

So you are saying the Intel UHD Graphics 630 will render faster than the RTX 3090?

I think GPU utilization is also related to whether the FX you're using supports GPU acceleration. As we've seen, a lot of FX on Vegas is probably already behind in terms of GPU utilization, which is definitely something Vegas needs to improve. 

However, the selection of software is not only the selection of encoding ability, the overall editing experience and function is the more primary indicator.

If you put an @ symbol you'll get a list of people you can tag, they'll then get a notification @RickJameBish 😉

I got a Nvidia GPU driver update, render times are different but no CUDA shows in the Taskmanager windows even tho it is turned on in Nvidia Control Panel 🤷‍♂️

& it shows my GPU @ 70-90% but not in the Encode area,

It makes no difference to my render times

HD 1920

UHD

This is it rendering some random 4k clips, no CUDA showing in Taskmanager still, it's normally in the dropdown below Copy 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

On my desktop and laptop from signature the QSV option renders faster than the NVENC option.
Not so important what the fastest render option is, but the cooperation of both due to the settings that Vegas (latest programs) made by looking what is available.

I got a Nvidia GPU driver update, render times are different but no CUDA shows in the Taskmanager windows even tho it is turned on in Nvidia Control Panel 🤷‍♂️

Vegas uses all a few years not CUDA of the NVIdia anymore because in earlier programs it made a lot of mistakes.