New Canon 5D Mark IV camera files - limit on how many will open?

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Marco. wrote on 2/19/2019, 1:22 AM

MediaInfo reports "JPEG", VP16 reports "Photo JPEG", VLC player reports "Motion JPEG", Canon itself writes it's Motion JPEG.

Musicvid wrote on 2/19/2019, 3:46 AM

I think it's Motion JPEG, or MJPEG. Initially developed as a medical imaging format with a smaller AVI footprint. Canon seems to have come full circle by elevating a native intraframe compressor. At least we don't have to deal with elusive pyramid-b frames, which are cheap knock-offs of I-frames. What a contrivance:-)

Marco. wrote on 2/19/2019, 4:23 AM

Photo JPEG and Motion JPEG are same compression but Motion JPEG adds translation information for some kind of hardware devices. For software usage both could be considered being the same.

Eagle Six wrote on 2/19/2019, 12:35 PM

To add some fuel to the fire, I get similar results, in around adding the 47th clip of the source media from an Atomos Ninja Flame 1080p 422 10 bit DNxHD

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Marco. wrote on 2/19/2019, 12:44 PM

Because it's Quicktime decoded again, I think.

Musicvid wrote on 2/19/2019, 1:25 PM

Question for testers, is the behavior the same when the QuickTime 7 MJPEG Codec is used to create your Source media?

Eagle Six wrote on 2/19/2019, 1:37 PM

Because it's Quicktime decoded again, I think.

Exactly

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Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
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Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
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Eagle Six wrote on 2/19/2019, 1:56 PM

Question for testers, is the behavior the same when the QuickTime 7 MJPEG Codec is used to create your Source media?

@Musicvid I'n not sure I follow your question. I rendered an MjpegA, which is I think the closest I can get the MJPEG and yes it does the same similar crash/hang failure in around the 43rd clip mark.

Best Regards.....George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

Musicvid wrote on 2/19/2019, 2:03 PM

That is significant to me. We need a 64 bit codec, and Apple won't be providing it.

Eagle Six wrote on 2/19/2019, 3:02 PM

The only other NLE I have is Resolve 15.2.3, which doesn't need Quicktime and therefore will load as many as I can throw at it and being a 64 bit loads and handle them pretty quick.

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64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

--A wrote on 3/26/2019, 10:31 PM

Hi guys. Issue sitll exists. Can you write to official support too?
I did it 2 months ago but they really don't care about me. And they answears are soriusly... stupid.
They treat that issue or me not seriously enough.

What about you to write to support too? I wwould not be alone anymore.
https://support2.magix.com/customer/en

https://www.magix.com/us/support/technical-support/
 

--A wrote on 4/3/2019, 10:02 AM

Guys? :D Is there anything else to to in that thread? Nothing happened :]
Can you ask official support about it like me?

Eagle Six wrote on 4/3/2019, 10:43 AM

@--A I think asking your question once in this thread will encourage others having the same problem to submit a request, but asking again just fills the thread with redundancy. I myself do not have the problem and therefore will not submit the problem, but I'm sure the others using a Canon 5D, having the same problem, and wishing it was addressed by Magix will submit on their own behave.

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Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

--A wrote on 4/10/2019, 1:10 PM

Ok, that's why I am asking for.
Can you tell me if you do that?

--A wrote on 4/19/2019, 7:51 PM

 

Has anyone done this?

JN_ wrote on 4/20/2019, 3:48 AM

@--A

Against my better judgement. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/proxy/85b33662fb5aedd97263/?link=https%3A//support2.magix.com/customer/en/vegas/form

I know i’m going to regret this, especially the meaningless and inane questions and suggestions that will have no bearing on the issue, I've been here before, mostly a waste of time. Nick Hope had already added it to his list of known issues, if he sent in a request then maybe someone might pay attention.

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Desktop and Laptop basic specs ...

Both run Win 10, has latest updates ...

Running latest ver. of Vegas Pro with latest updates.

VP13 B453 also.

Vegaseur and Pluraleyes installed on both ...

Quicktime 7.79.80.95

PC ...

i9 9900K, Intel Graphics 630. Nov 2018.

Mem. 32gb DDR4

Graphics card .. Nvidia Rtx 2080 Ti

Nvidia Graphics driver .. latest Studio driver.

Latest Intel Graphics driver

 

Laptop ... (Acer Predator G9-793-77AC)

CPU .. i7-6700HQ Skylake-H

Memory ..16GB DDR4 

Graphics card .. Nvidia GTX 1070, latest Studio driver.

john_dennis wrote on 4/20/2019, 2:33 PM

"I know i’m going to regret this, especially the meaningless and inane questions and suggestions that will have no bearing on the issue..."

All Good Samaritans will be punished until the good works stop.

My number is 43.

Happy Otter Scripts Render Events makes light work of transcoding to

Magic YUV RGB (lossless)

or 

Magix Intermediate (respectable quality) in Vegas 15 (Magix ProRes in Vegas 16).

I'd expect Magix to write a decoder for MJPEG in a MOV wrapper when they get a round tuit.  In the mean time, I'd be getting my work done. Corporate obstinance on the part of Apple and Canon doesn't necessarily create a crisis for Magix. 

JN_ wrote on 4/20/2019, 3:59 PM

Indeed John, its not like there aren’t several workarounds that are available, many other suggested here, but “—A” needs the small files, otherwise using the Canon software to import as I suggested on page 1 of this long thread to the OP in 2016 would do, its what i’d do today if needs be.

 

Desktop and Laptop basic specs ...

Both run Win 10, has latest updates ...

Running latest ver. of Vegas Pro with latest updates.

VP13 B453 also.

Vegaseur and Pluraleyes installed on both ...

Quicktime 7.79.80.95

PC ...

i9 9900K, Intel Graphics 630. Nov 2018.

Mem. 32gb DDR4

Graphics card .. Nvidia Rtx 2080 Ti

Nvidia Graphics driver .. latest Studio driver.

Latest Intel Graphics driver

 

Laptop ... (Acer Predator G9-793-77AC)

CPU .. i7-6700HQ Skylake-H

Memory ..16GB DDR4 

Graphics card .. Nvidia GTX 1070, latest Studio driver.

eikira wrote on 4/21/2019, 7:38 PM

this thread is to long, i had not the motivation to read everything. but try ffdshow x64 if you need MJPEG. cant say if then the codec inside it acts as x64 compatible itself and eliminates the memory issues, but so far maybe worth a try?

--A wrote on 4/24/2019, 10:49 AM

1. We all knot that ffdshow exsists.

2. As someone wrote...
if he sent in a request then maybe someone might pay attention.

The may don't know this issue. If we sent, they will know. This is ONLY A FORUM.
Issua have to be report. We should inform MAgix that there is an issue.
So... Can someone sent that ticket to their support to?
 

Hm? @peter-pappas?

JN_ wrote on 4/24/2019, 12:47 PM

I have got back some basic response from the ticket I opened, not sure if thats it, i’ll wait a while longer to see. So far recommendation is to disable quicktime and do a rewrap if using Cineform, hardly relevant to the Canon codec.

Maybe theres more to come?

This is about it so far ...

 

The error message is reporting a crash in FileIOsurrogate, which is a component of VEGAS.  
To resolve this issue, navigate to C:\Program Files\VEGAS\Vegas Pro 16.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\qt7plug
Rename the qt7plug.dll to qt7plug.old

Restart Vegas”

 

“Modern .mp4 and .mov files can be read in Vegas applications without requiring QuickTime.

Without QuickTime installed, these applications can read .mp4 and .mov files that use H.264/AVC video and use AAC or PCM audio. These modern formats are written by many DSLR and action cameras.

QuickTime is required to read .mp4 and .mov containing ProRes, CineForm, and other QuickTime based or installed video codecs. Uninstalling QuickTime for Windows will remove support for these formats in these applications. If using CineForm, we recommend that you re-wrap into AVI format.”

 

 

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Desktop and Laptop basic specs ...

Both run Win 10, has latest updates ...

Running latest ver. of Vegas Pro with latest updates.

VP13 B453 also.

Vegaseur and Pluraleyes installed on both ...

Quicktime 7.79.80.95

PC ...

i9 9900K, Intel Graphics 630. Nov 2018.

Mem. 32gb DDR4

Graphics card .. Nvidia Rtx 2080 Ti

Nvidia Graphics driver .. latest Studio driver.

Latest Intel Graphics driver

 

Laptop ... (Acer Predator G9-793-77AC)

CPU .. i7-6700HQ Skylake-H

Memory ..16GB DDR4 

Graphics card .. Nvidia GTX 1070, latest Studio driver.

JN_ wrote on 4/24/2019, 4:17 PM

 

Ok i’m pretty sure this is a final response ...

This is escalated to QA and Development, to be resolved in a future application version or update.”

 

 

Desktop and Laptop basic specs ...

Both run Win 10, has latest updates ...

Running latest ver. of Vegas Pro with latest updates.

VP13 B453 also.

Vegaseur and Pluraleyes installed on both ...

Quicktime 7.79.80.95

PC ...

i9 9900K, Intel Graphics 630. Nov 2018.

Mem. 32gb DDR4

Graphics card .. Nvidia Rtx 2080 Ti

Nvidia Graphics driver .. latest Studio driver.

Latest Intel Graphics driver

 

Laptop ... (Acer Predator G9-793-77AC)

CPU .. i7-6700HQ Skylake-H

Memory ..16GB DDR4 

Graphics card .. Nvidia GTX 1070, latest Studio driver.

--A wrote on 4/30/2019, 9:42 PM

I have got back some basic response from the ticket I opened, not sure if thats it, i’ll wait a while longer to see. So far recommendation is to disable quicktime and do a rewrap if using Cineform, hardly relevant to the Canon codec.

 

I did it a lot of weeks before and that idea is not working.

recommendation is to disable quicktime and do a rewrap if using Cineform

 

That is not working in my 3 computers.
What about yours? Is that method work? I don't think.

fr0sty wrote on 4/30/2019, 10:22 PM

did you download the update that dropped today?