Please help! Rendering for Samsung TV with 5.1 sound

JohnAsh wrote on 1/9/2023, 11:38 AM

This has been occupying (pre-occupying!) me for ages. I'm trying to get our video from a trip last autumn to USA to playback with 5.1 surround (it makes our narrative in the car much more audible) on our Samsung QLED TV.

I usually render with Magix AVX/AAC MP4 on my Vegas v19 - as recommended in this post (https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/problem-playing-rendered-video-on-samsung-qled-tv--117334/#ca731358) which plays back perfectly on my Samsung QLED TV. But there is no 5.1 option for audio. I've been reading as much as possible for this and decided to install Vegas v12 which has templates for 5.1. I used Sony AVC/MVC which is the only one I could find with 5.1 audio, Great that, having paid for numerous upgrades, I had to revert to an old version in order to be able to render in 5.1.

However, having rendered this, as expected, it won't playback properly on the TV. All sorts of issues which I found before which is why I've previously been using the Magix template.

I've now downloaded and installed Otter Scripts for a trial period and also downloaded and installed Magic YUV Codecs. But I'm completely lost as to what I'm doing now, I have tried a render but it was a stab in the dark. I ended up with a vast AVI file which would not even play on my PC with VLC (Codec not known) and certainly wouldn't play on the Samsung TV. I have to say, going back to the early days of video, the word CODEC almost immediately caused my brain to seize up!

Any help for me to shine more light into what is almost total darkness for me would be much appreciated. The clips were recorded on my Sony FDR-AX53 camcorder and clip info is:-

General
Name: 00892.MTS
Folder: E:\Home Movies\Sony Vegas USA22\Media\Video Cam
Type: MPEG-2 Transport Stream
Size: 6.82 MB (6,979,584 bytes)
Created: domingo, 30 de octubre de 2022, 9:44:30
Modified: miércoles, 28 de septiembre de 2022, 12:14:40
Accessed: lunes, 9 de enero de 2023, 17:51:14
Attributes: Archive

Streams
Video: 00:00:03.640, 25.000 fps interlaced, 1920x1080x12, AVC
Audio 1: 00:00:03.640, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround (stereo downmix), Dolby AC-3
Audio 2: 00:00:03.640, 48,000 Hz, 5.1 Surround, Dolby AC-3

ACID information
ACID chunk: no
Stretch chunk: no
Stretch list: no
Stretch info2: no
Beat markers: no
Detected beats: no

Other metadata
Regions/markers: no
Command markers: no

Media manager
Media tags: no

Plug-In
Name: compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 19.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
Format: MPEG-2 Transport Stream
Version: Version 19.0 (Build 643)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.

Comments

FayFen wrote on 1/9/2023, 12:01 PM

I have 0 experience with 5.1 , so I loaded 5.1mts file and on render in VP19 all I can see is to wmv

and indeed mediainfo show it is a wmv video with 5.1 audio.

Musicvid wrote on 1/9/2023, 1:18 PM

Have you tried encoding in Handbrake or Shutter Encoder? They both have AVC/AAC 5.1 afaik.

Musicvid wrote on 1/9/2023, 9:34 PM

I tried AVC/AAC 5.1 in Shutter Encoder, and it works just fine.

JohnAsh wrote on 1/10/2023, 7:01 AM

Oh wow. I think that's it. I was certainly overcomplicating things. I donated and downloaded Shutter Encoder. I rendered a test project using the usual Magix AVC template, then rendered the audio using a Sony Wave 64 5.1 template. I then used Shutter Encoder to "replace audio". And it worked. Thank you, thank you!!

Musicvid wrote on 1/10/2023, 1:13 PM

Congratulations on a creative solution. Do the files play well on your teevee?

3POINT wrote on 1/10/2023, 1:52 PM

I also have no experience with 5.1 audio, but isn't Voukoder able to render video and 5.1 audio directly from the Vegas timeline?

JohnAsh wrote on 1/10/2023, 2:10 PM

Congratulations on a creative solution. Do the files play well on your teevee?

Thank you. Yes, played very well but only with the settings given in the link in my original post.

JohnAsh wrote on 1/10/2023, 2:11 PM

I also have no experience with 5.1 audio, but isn't Voukoder able to render video and 5.1 audio directly from the Vegas timeline?

I did try that and got nowhere. Far simpler to render as before, then render a 5.1 audio file and mux them using "Replace audio" in Shutter Encoder. It was well worth the $10 donation. Very simple to use and fast.

3POINT wrote on 1/10/2023, 3:26 PM

I also have no experience with 5.1 audio, but isn't Voukoder able to render video and 5.1 audio directly from the Vegas timeline?

I did try that and got nowhere.

My first attemp with Voukoder gave me a multichannel audio video, exactly as it was in the Vegas timeline...

Musicvid wrote on 1/10/2023, 4:34 PM

I also have no experience with 5.1 audio, but isn't Voukoder able to render video and 5.1 audio directly from the Vegas timeline?

I did try that and got nowhere.

My first attemp with Voukoder gave me a multichannel audio video, exactly as it was in the Vegas timeline...

Can you show us how to do that?

john_dennis wrote on 1/10/2023, 5:26 PM

@Musicvid

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/problem-playing-rendered-video-on-samsung-qled-tv--117334/?page=2#ca864400

Musicvid wrote on 1/10/2023, 5:58 PM

My installation of Voukoder 12 on Vegas 20 doesn't do that. @john_dennis

Apparently, that hasn't worked for @JohnAsh either, from his post in that same thread.

3POINT wrote on 1/11/2023, 10:01 AM

I also have no experience with 5.1 audio, but isn't Voukoder able to render video and 5.1 audio directly from the Vegas timeline?

I did try that and got nowhere.

My first attemp with Voukoder gave me a multichannel audio video, exactly as it was in the Vegas timeline...

Can you show us how to do that?

Yes, I just used default Voukoder rendertemplate and reimported the Voukoder render;

Mediainfo of Voukoder render: