Sony DV Video Transfer

philbill wrote on 2/18/2023, 5:30 AM

Hi,

I purchased a firewire card and connected my Sony DV camera PC110E hoping to transfer video tape to PC. I have the camera showing up as an imaging device in device manager so all seemed fine. However, none of the software tried including Movie home or Vegas Pro detect a camera is attached. Any ideas?

Cheers,

Phil

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Dexcon wrote on 2/18/2023, 5:43 AM

Three questions -

  • what exactly is the firewire card?
  • what are the specifications of your computer?
  • what version and build of Vegas Pro are you using? (I don't think that Movie Home is a Vegas product so you'll need to look elsewhere for whatever product that is).

Personally, I have an old XP computer with a firewire card for transferring MiniDV media or VHS/S-VHS media when nowadays rarely needed.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

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Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

philbill wrote on 2/18/2023, 6:24 AM

Hi Dexcon,

My PC is an i5 3570k with 16gb RAM Win 10

Card is Cuifati PCIe Firewire Card for Windows 10, IEEE 1394 PCI Express Adapter Controller 4 Ports(3 x 6 Pin and 1 x 4 Pin), 1394a PCI-E Firewire 800 Adapter for Windows 7/8/Mac OS with Cable.

Sony Vegas Pro is 14. I used to transfer videos with my old PC that had firewire built in no problem.

Cheers,

Phil

Dexcon wrote on 2/18/2023, 6:44 AM

I think that you'd need to check the specifications for that Windows 10 firewire card, it being released some 3 years after your computer's i5 3570k (pre W10) was released - to make sure that it is backwards compatible to pre-W10 OS versions.

BTW, you will not have Sony Vegas Pro 14. Sony sold the Vegas product line to MAGIX in 2016 and all Vegas Pro versions from 14 onwards has had nothing to do with Sony and have not carried Sony branding.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 20, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

philbill wrote on 2/18/2023, 7:07 AM

Thanks

Musicvid wrote on 2/18/2023, 7:26 AM

You will need to download and install the Windows Legacy firewire drivers. You should check to see that your firewire card has the TI Chipset. You may find the old Scenealyzer software to be a useful alternative to legacy Vegas Capture. More discussion here:

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/proxy/0c663c9b8c2b549708bc/?link=https%3A//www.studio1productions.com/Articles/Firewire-1.htm

philbill wrote on 2/18/2023, 8:07 AM

I have the legacy driver installed. Version year is 2012

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/18/2023, 10:40 AM

@philbill Got this one back in 2020, it had the TI chipset, and it works for me in Vegas under Win10 with the Microsoft legacy 1394 driver downloaded from the Syba web site. Have not tried it with Win11.

Robbie wrote on 2/19/2023, 5:56 AM

@philbill +1 everything @Musicvid said including using scenalyzer as the capture software rather than Vagas Capture. Fr5om my esperience (everyones MMV) the TI chipset thing isn't as essential as it used to be but still seems to imptrove the chances of success.

Unfortunately DV capture setups can be a bit finicky so it might take a bit of trial and error to work out the right combination of hardware, software and settings. Must admit that like @Howard-Vigorita I haven't yet tried DV capture under Win 11. Haven't done any dv captures for a while but I seem to recalll that I had best sucess if I had the camcorded connected, powereed up and armed and ready before turning on the PC and loading the capture software. {Just re-emphasising that that Scenalyzer was my capture software of choice as it was always more responsive than othe options). Memory iks filing me4 atg the m oment but matgbe @Musicvid will remember but I also rfecale havin g to change a setting fregarding device control (will come back when my memory kicks back in).

Cheers, Robbie

 

 

 

frmax wrote on 2/19/2023, 6:18 AM

I record DV in Windows 10, have not tested with Win 11. My firewire chipset is VIA, not TI. As I recall other discussion (outside this forum), the recommendation of Firewire cards leans towards VIA for Win 10.

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Monitor LG 32UN880; Camera Sony FDR-AX53; Photo Canon EOS, Samsung S22 Ultra

Musicvid wrote on 2/19/2023, 7:54 AM

but I also recall having to change a setting regarding device control (will come back when my memory kicks back in).

Using the "Vegas Capture" utility, one must turn Device Control to Off in order to capture. Honestly, for the past several years, I use a set-top Magnavox DVD-RAM recorder with hardware denoise, and I am very satisfied with the results.