Track Compositing

Selina wrote on 2/21/2022, 2:18 PM

Following on from my experiments with Pan & Crop Masks, I thought it would be fun to experiment with Vegas Pro's track compositing feature.

Here is an example of using "Add." There are two tracks with a Checker board pattern on Track One and a Blue Solid on Track Two.

The Movement of Track One is a keyframed effect called "Wave" which is added before Pan&Crop. The bottom track has the Saturation Adjust effect added to it with the "High" element animated.

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Selina wrote on 2/21/2022, 2:26 PM

Here is an example of "DifferenceSquared."

The top track is a Noise Texture with the Y and Progress (in degrees) elements animated.

The bottom track is a gradient with the TV Simulator effect applied and the Vertical sync element animated.

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Former user wrote on 2/21/2022, 2:31 PM

@Selina 👍 Try adding a bold text on top using the Multiply (Mask) or the Mask Generator FX, 😊

Former user wrote on 2/21/2022, 2:51 PM

@Selina If you like the patterns have a look at this free program, Particle Illusion, after you installed it go to help & download the free emitters pack, https://borisfx.com/products/particle-illusion/

Selina wrote on 2/21/2022, 3:16 PM

@Gid - Thanks for your reminders about "MultiplyMask"

This example uses three tracks - the first two have "Add" as their compositing mode. Particles created in Particle-Illusion and mocha was used to track the particles around the bottom track shape.

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Selina wrote on 2/21/2022, 3:27 PM

Finally an example of "MultiplyMask"

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Musicvid wrote on 2/21/2022, 8:05 PM

This example uses three tracks - the first two have "Add" as their compositing mode. Particles created in Particle-Illusion and mocha was used to track the particles around the bottom track shape.

Oh, yeah! I like this a lot. You are truly a talented life form.

Musicvid wrote on 2/21/2022, 8:50 PM

Selina, I've rendered your example to REC 709 Limited delivery standard (right half) for more detail, especially noticeable in the highlights.

And this one, the difference being more pronounced in the shadows.

Keeping your current workflow, you would simply add the Computer->Studio RGB Levels fx to the output.

Grazie wrote on 2/21/2022, 10:12 PM

@Selina. @Musicvid and @Former user, I’ve longed wished for threads you, @Selina, have started. There’s so much that can be achieved in our much loved/used VegasPro.

I want to see what you can achieve with Track Manipulations 😉.

Grazie wrote on 2/22/2022, 12:10 AM

I want to see what you can achieve with Track Manipulations 😉.

Here I meant Track Layers, 2D or 3D and interacting with each other with Motion Tracking👌 .

 

3POINT wrote on 2/22/2022, 2:42 AM

I must have somewhere (at home) some 3D Vegasprojects (I experimented with that at my Vegas start period 15 years ago) like a turning 3D cube with video on each side or a 3D book that opens and showing some moving photos inside.

Is there a way to publish a veggie here?

EricLNZ wrote on 2/22/2022, 3:03 AM

Is there a way to publish a veggie here

Unfortunately no. It's not an accepted file format. You'll have to upload it somewhere.

3POINT wrote on 2/22/2022, 3:14 AM

Is there a way to publish a veggie here

Unfortunately no. It's not an accepted file format. You'll have to upload it somewhere.

OK, I will dive in my archive tonight and share them (link) here.

3POINT wrote on 2/22/2022, 10:31 AM

Something like this:

3POINT wrote on 2/22/2022, 10:37 AM

Or this:

Selina wrote on 2/22/2022, 2:32 PM

@Musicvid - Thanks for the compliment and tips - had to look up REC 709
@Grazie - Yes, there is so much to learn and discover in Vegas Pro.

Here I have used three tracks the top two have a compositing mode of 3D Source Alpha and the bottom just Source Alpha.

The top two are manipulated independently of each other as you can see from the different Track position diamonds. From the setting you can see, all I changed was the X rotation from 0 to 180 for the top track (blue) and from -180 to 0 for the second track (orange).

The last track is the Video Bus Track to apply the "Levels" filter setting "Computer RGB to Studio RGB"

It's a tentative start...

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Selina wrote on 2/22/2022, 3:28 PM

Looking at what others have shown I was prompted to look at making the two 3D tracks a child of a top parent track. I looked this up in the help file. Launching the help file from Vegas crashes it - so I made a desktop shortcut to it and just launched that independently...

What I discovered is by using the parent motion feature it's possible to move the child tracks as one 'group.' This is what I think I saw in 3POINTS' book and john_dennis' rotating cube.

With the tracks placed in 'pseudo' 3D space relative to each other, grouped as children to a parent track, it's easy to manipulate the parent track and achieve a pleasing effect.

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3POINT wrote on 2/22/2022, 3:34 PM

Indeed parent motion:

Former user wrote on 2/22/2022, 6:41 PM

@Selina Cool, never played with the 3d controls but was inspired,

I don't know exactly how you did it but just in case anybody wants to know, after putting the lower track as a child & both tracks inc the parent track as 3D source Alpha, I put the top track - Track Motion - Position Z as 0.06, this puts the lower track in front, offsetting the two track layers by 0.06,

set wrote on 2/22/2022, 8:17 PM

Speaking of 3D... something I did many years ago...

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Former user wrote on 2/22/2022, 8:47 PM

@set 👍 I like the pages, was that done in a similar way by flipping the offset tracks/layers ?

set wrote on 2/22/2022, 9:07 PM

Rotating the track, after set that track as 3D Track.

Besides that, I setup the pages as half pages transparent, so when showing page 2 on the left... the page 3 on the right side is left blank - or, you can just use same image page 2 & 3 together, but mask it by half for each side.

With this way, the axis center rotation is already in the 'center' of the 'book'. Also, I change the 'height position' (probably Z axis - I forgot) very little to prevent any intersection to other layer.

 

Keep doing experimenting, everyone who posting in this topic 👍👍.

Doing visual graphic motion like this is interesting and ideas has no limit.

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set wrote on 2/22/2022, 9:16 PM

Leaving the content visible layers in child track, with parent tracks are empty, or even leveled parent tracks, can also be very useful, for each axis. By doing this way, you have individual keyframes and control for each axis, to each track.

This technique was adapted from my 3D CG experience long time ago (old 3D Studio Max), I add dummy box object and let the visible objects to become 'children' to this dummy object. Finally, put rotation function to this dummy object.

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Selina wrote on 2/23/2022, 2:31 AM

@set - love the book and the page crimps and staples! Brilliant!!!

Variation on a theme

Here I'm attempting the impossible!

Getting a good round corner mask using Pan&Crop mask - it seems to me that there's no reliable way to ensure a curve is exactly as expected. What do I mean by that?

First by changing an anchor from straight to curve there are two handles - one on the left and one on the right. At first I though the one on the left created a cusp, but sometimes when I clicked on the same node - the one on the right created a cusp and the one on the opposite side a smooth curve - confusing!

So it was just pot-luck what I'd get once I clicked on a handle. Second as you can see from this video the curves do not line up even though it is the same mask copied from track one to track two and rotated 180 degrees.

I can zoom in and check the handles and they are all (visually) where I expect them to be. But as I can't get into the tangent settings, I can't ensure a perfect match.

At one point in my experiment the mask tool refused to delete nodes or show any handles at all. Also, sad to say Vegas crashed about 5 times - each sent and reported on to the relevant place...
 

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Former user wrote on 2/23/2022, 6:16 AM

@Selina Hi, if you can't get the mask to give you nice rounded corners, consider this @3POINT posted in another post 👍 https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/how-to-darken-the-bottom-of-the-frame-for-titles--133930/#ca835381

The controls are tiny on my 4k screen 😒