Sounds like you're opening it as a "Nested" project so you would only see one event per track. Right-click and drag to the timeline and then choose "Open Project".

That's not the case.

Vegas doesn't open projects by drag-drop if the timeline is empty. (nested or not)

Have you tried it?

1) Run Vegas

2) Create tracks (CTRL-Q or CTRL-SHIFT-Q) or insert FX to Tracks or Master Channels. (just keep the timeline empty)

3) Save the project EMPTY.VEG

4) Close the project

5) Try to open it by drag-drop.

Can anyone confirm this?

I am unable to duplicate your problem. Have tried several variations of drag/drop empty project to timeline, as well as to icon. It works as expected. VP20 build 214.

Have you tried resetting the program?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

@noisywan, I just tried it.

When I have VEGAS open and Windows Explorer open, here's what I get:

1. Drag with left mouse button from Explorer to VEGAS - it opens as a "NESTED" veg file - i.e. ONE video event and ONE audio event.

2. Drag with right mouse button - it opens a menu and gives me several options; one of which is "Open Project"; and when I choose "Open Project" it will open with all of the tracks and individual events intact.

So what you are seeing is normal. It is nesting the veg file into the timeline (whether or not the timeline is empty, it doesn't matter).

I am unable to duplicate your problem. Have tried several variations of drag/drop empty project to timeline, as well as to icon. It works as expected. VP20 build 214.

Have you tried resetting the program?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

I have the same build (214) but I get a different result.

Yes, I have also tried uninstall - reinstall. Still can't open(neither directly nor nested) empty projects by drag-drop.

EDIT: BTW are you sure you have used an EMPTY project because user jedtv was so sure about that it works but it appears he did not follow the steps properly. The project MUST be EMPTY.

@noisywan, I just tried it.

When I have VEGAS open and Windows Explorer open, here's what I get:

1. Drag with left mouse button from Explorer to VEGAS - it opens as a "NESTED" veg file - i.e.

ONE video event and ONE audio event.

This issue is about EMPTY projects.

The project you open is not empty. It has an audio and a video event on timeline.

Please read my initial post again, and try to recrate the steps I wrote and post the screen capture if possible.

Here is an empty project file for testing.

https://we.tl/t-Yuv5uKKw1L

Please drag-drop this project into Vegas and see if it opens.

I can reproduce the issue with V19..

How do you feel V20 in general after V12? (I'm in the same boat) Loved V11/12 and feel mixed with V19 or 20.

I can reproduce the issue with V19..

How do you feel V20 in general after V12? (I'm in the same boat) Loved V11/12 and feel mixed with V19 or 20.

 

Thanks for confirming it for V19

I can't say I'm happy with v20 in general. Last week I had to switch back to v13 (can't use 12 anymore on Win10) to do my rutine audio-only work because v20 kept crashing.

V12 is faster than v20 when rendering mp3 files.( 2 min render on v12 takes +6 min ! on V20)

V12 can also render MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio-only file, while v20 can't. (crashes if you try to)

Saying goodbye to Waves plugins is a sad story too.

About the video side, I was excited about the scene detection tool but it appears it's very unstable. Hangs a lot.(not responding state) When it works, it can't detect even obvious hard cuts in a 10 mins clip filled with hard cuts every 5-6 seconds. It detects the first 10-15 cuts then gets tired and gives up, detects nothing for 6-7 mins :) then wakes up and detects the last 3-4 cuts at the end of clip. A very lazy plug-in.

This issue is about EMPTY projects.

The project you open is not empty. It has an audio and a video event on timeline.

Of course I was opening an existing project on my system that does have video and audio tracks/events. Why would you open an "Empty" project anyway? Just do a File - Close or a File - New to get an empty project.

I don't get an option to download the file when I click on your link.

Ok, I started a new project, added two video tracks and one audio track and saved it with nothing on the timeline. I cannot drag this VEG file to the timeline with either left or right clicking. I suspect it is because the project has "no length".

This issue is about EMPTY projects.

The project you open is not empty. It has an audio and a video event on timeline.

Of course I was opening an existing project on my system that does have video and audio tracks/events. Why would you open an "Empty" project anyway? Just do a File - Close or a File - New to get an empty project.

I don't get an option to download the file when I click on your link.

Ok, I started a new project, added two video tracks and one audio track and saved it with nothing on the timeline. I cannot drag this VEG file to the timeline with either left or right clicking. I suspect it is because the project has "no length".

Thanks for confirming

Projects with empty timeline can be opened by drag-drop with earlier versions. Looks like they removed this feature in v20.

>Why would you open an "Empty" project anyway?

I use them as templates. I've been using Vegas 12 since 2012 and I have zillions of projects templates containing plugins, Audio tracks with EQ and FX adjustments, Master and Bus channels with various plugins..

I used to open them and just add WAV files and the project was done.without further adjustments.

Now I need to browse to each folder to open them, or insert an event into timeline to make them drag-drop-open-ready by V20.

Removal of this feature might be an insignificant detail for most users but it slows down my workflow.

 containing plugins, Audio tracks with EQ and FX adjustments, Master and Bus channels with various plugins..

YOU must have an unique VEGAS version that can represent its Master and Bus Channels when your templates imported into the main project as nest things.

Or how you open these templates/projects into another project by drag-drop, I would learn!

Ok, I took my "Empty" project and just added an "Empty Event" to the first video track. Now it has "length" and will drag and drop just fine. You still need to right-click and drag and choose "Open Project", though, or you'll get a nested VEG file.

So as you open your templates, just add an "empty event" to the first video track. Then they'll work in the future. Once the project is open, you can either ignore or delete the "empty event".

Ok, I took my "Empty" project and just added an "Empty Event" to the first video track. Now it has "length" and will drag and drop just fine. You still need to right-click and drag and choose "Open Project", though, or you'll get a nested VEG file.

So as you open your templates, just add an "empty event" to the first video track. Then they'll work in the future. Once the project is open, you can either ignore or delete the "empty event".

I've already mentioned that solution you have suggested at the end of my previous msg. I assume you didn't read the entire message. Thanks anyways.

I've already mentioned that solution you have suggested at the end of my previous msg

You mentioned adding an "Event". Jetdv was referring to an "Empty Event" which is not a normal Event. It's a special item probably found in the Insert Menu. I say probably because I'm a VMS user and that's where it's found, but I assume Pro is the same.

Thanks, I already know that detail.

Yes, 'insert empty event' command exists in pro too.

The empty event is a good idea and elegant solution. I'd do that for such a template.

The empty event is a good idea and elegant solution. I'd do that for such a template.

@RogerS - Two decades of running this and it’s earlier, earliest iterations, I’ve always wanted a way to have an “Empty.veg”-type opportunity at start up for New Projects, without the opening of an existing/last Veg!!! Wow, just WOW 🤩. So bleedin’ obvious….. This has opened up so many more opportunities.

@noisywan - Thank you 🙏.

Just saved an empty.veg file to my desktop, dragged it on top of my Vegas 20 shortcut, and it opened right up. Not nested. Never thought of doing that before. Because simply double-clicking is so much easier. Works the same whether the project is empty or not. Works similarly in both the Vegas and Windows file explorers.

What does not seem to work is trying to drop the empty veg file onto an open Vegas project's timeline. Dropping a populated veg file nests it onto the timeline with it's parent's stream properties. But rather than nesting an empty project, Vegas does something inconsistent. Nothing. Kinda makes sense. Nesting an empty container and getting nothing. Makes more sense than nesting in one instance but opening for edit in another.

Btw, there are issues using veg files as templates. Only partial protection against inadvertently saving them. Making them read-only does not work as I expected... Vegas renames them on save so my read-only files become bak files if I inadvertently save my would-be template. And Vegas cannot delete the read-only bak file after subsequent saves so it starts making .tmp files instead. A formal template file-type would be cleaner. There are audio editors that have them.

@Howard-Vigorita - I’m going to reflect on what you have discovered.

 containing plugins, Audio tracks with EQ and FX adjustments, Master and Bus channels with various plugins..

YOU must have an unique VEGAS version that can represent its Master and Bus Channels when your templates imported into the main project as nest things.

 

 

Yes, I have a custom built VIP version for $5000, VEGAS Pro Quantum Diamond Elite Plus 20. Klaus Schmidt himself installed it on my machine.

I think you got it wrong @Yelandkeil. I didn't say I use them as nested.

So as your title emphasized, could you show me how to open a project (with/without empty timeline) by drag and drop.

@Howard-Vigorita, I always start VEGAS with my default project.
It contains tracks I plan to use and my start logo bzw. end credit on the main track
and surround sound tracks including narrating sidechain.
Without logo/credit, it's an empty 4k60p project.

@noisywan, aah, maybe earlier VEGAS treated "drag and drop" empty project as "open it".
If so, I don't know it.
Sorry!