Vegas Content gives me copyright claim on YouTube (Video)

_Mark_ wrote on 11/3/2021, 5:39 AM

Sorry to bring this up again, but this has happened to me with some footage. I followed everything in this post https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-content-gives-me-copyright-claim-on-youtube--132361/ but they have still disputed the claim. If I counter claim and they still dispute it could result in a strike. I don`t know what else to do.

This is the footage in question available through Vegas

Asset ID: SBV-338763685

https://www.storyblocks.com/video/stock/80s-retro-futuristic-drive-seamless-loop-with-vintage-car-stylized-sci-fi-landscape-race-in-outrun-vj-style-night-sky-vaporwave-30-fps-3d-animation-background-for-edm-music-video-dj-set-club-4k-sz7dgavlwkfvmvpa6

Here is my video:

Here is their video:

Here it is in Vegas...

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Former user wrote on 11/3/2021, 5:51 AM

Looks like you are both using the same storyblocks video , they have fingerprinted their audio and video, and now you are being detected as infringing their video. They are in the wrong, but whoever is denying your dispute may know nothing of the origins of their music video, they just see the same car animation in both. Tricky situation

_Mark_ wrote on 11/3/2021, 6:05 AM

Thanks Todd, I have contacted storyblocks too, gave some details and pointed them to this post.

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RogerS wrote on 11/3/2021, 9:13 AM

This is pretty bizarre- they're not the content owner and yet are making copyright claims. I mean you could technically do the same to their video.

Let us know how it works out!

_Mark_ wrote on 11/3/2021, 9:29 AM

Storyblocks were pretty quick to respond, I`ll give them that. Here's the reply...

Hey Mark,

Information regarding your claim has been forwarded to the claimant listed on your copyright notice for removal. The time it takes for claims to be removed depends on the claimant, but most claims are generally removed between 24 hours to 5 business days. We're happy to follow up with you if we receive information that the claim removal is taking longer than expected. Please let us know if a claim is not released after 5 business days.

For more information on YouTube claims and why they occur, please visit the following link: https://blog.storyblocks.com/storyblocks-features/youtube-content-id-claims-stock-audio/

Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thanks for contacting Storyblocks Audio!

I`ll see what happens over the next few days. Its a petty we cant have an account with storyblocks linked with the Vegas account so we could add our YouTube channel ID that way we claims get sorted behind the scenes.

 

EDIT: Had another reply from someone else at storyblocks...

Hey there!

The Vegas pro 365 add-on for Storyblocks and the direct subscription to Storyblocks are two different products - so we aren't able to connect or combine access between them.

If you have any questions or concerns about your Storyblocks access through Vegas pro 365 you will need to contact them. I am not able to help you with this claim since you don't have an account with Storyblocks.

I apologize for the inconvenience. Have a great day!

So someone else saying its a Vegas pro 365 problem!

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RogerS wrote on 11/3/2021, 9:57 AM

They don't have their story straight with how to deal with claims from those using the Storyblocks API. Guess it's still early days for them.

Not sure the second response actually understood the issue, though.

Musicvid wrote on 11/3/2021, 11:15 AM

It's just a crooked money grab, and as I said previously, it's been going on for years. Storybooks does need to get their act together and make sure claims are blocked, but their quote about "24 hours to 5 days" to remove a claim is naïve and laughable. Do not respond to any communications from the claimant. This is important.

_Mark_ wrote on 11/3/2021, 11:24 AM

It's just a crooked money grab, and as I said previously, it's been going on for years. Storybooks does need to get their act together and make sure claims are blocked, but their quote about "24 hours to 5 days" to remove a claim is laughable. Plan on a year, and do not respond to any communications from the claimant. This is important.

Yeah, considering the claimant very promptly refused my initial request, Thanks for the advice re communication with claimant.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/3/2021, 3:31 PM

Here's what's online about Storyblocks licensing:

https://www.storyblocks.com/business-solution/license-comparison

The indemnification section indicates they'll help you fight infringement claims limited by monetary amount depending on personal or business licensing. If the claimant is also a Storyblocks a licensee, they could and should cancel him. In which case the claimant would be the infringer if Storyblocks files a claim.

Former user wrote on 11/3/2021, 6:57 PM

If the claimant is also a Storyblocks a licensee, they could and should cancel him. In which case the claimant would be the infringer if Storyblocks files a claim.

They look to be a large South Korean music producer and distributor , Could be a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. The singers original video is here,

so it's her video, the music distributor did not create it, and it looks like she created it with storyblocks clips, A music distributor signs her(Genie Music) her music and video are uploaded and finger printed to their YT channel. The distributor would have a contract with the singer saying that she owns all her content, so when the person who's job it is to take care of copyright disputes see's the car clip being used they think it's a clear breach of their copyright. They may not even know what a StoryBLocks is

But if you informed them what it is and linked them to the clip the same as you did here, then they're most definitely in the wrong

_Mark_ wrote on 11/9/2021, 6:42 AM

Just an update on this issue and all due respect to storyblocks on their communication with me, can`t fault them. However they too have failed to resolve this issue (at this moment in time) they have contacted the owner (Genie Music) of the video twice now with no joy, their last suggestion was to dispute the claim again, of course if I do that and they don't comply, it will lead to strike. So just a word of warning if using the stock footage inside of Vegas, it`s put me off from using it again, it`s just too much hassle.

Thanks to all that helped :-)

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RogerS wrote on 11/9/2021, 7:15 AM

That's sad.

This makes me want to make a video with just this background footage and then text over it stating it is the property of Storyblocks and I am a licensed user of it through the API, that it is a violation of YouTube TOS and that of the stock footage for 3rd parties to improperly claim ownership and waiting for a claim to appear.

Any attorneys want to help with wording? : )

Former user wrote on 11/9/2021, 6:21 PM

That's sad.

This makes me want to make a video with just this background footage

I did this part at least, uploaded it a few days ago, Genie Music claimed copyright as predicted, I disputed with the storyblocks information, when they dismiss the dispute, I"ll then make the final dispute that is said will lead to possible dmca strike. I am interested to see the process here. I am using a throw away account

RogerS wrote on 11/9/2021, 10:02 PM

Nice, let me know how it goes- also wiling to take a strike here with a throwaway channel.

_Mark_ wrote on 11/11/2021, 5:52 AM

Be curious to know how you get on too. Still unresolved here, If storyblocks can`t get it sorted, what chance do we have.

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Howard-Vigorita wrote on 11/13/2021, 11:30 AM

I dispute nefarious claims all the time with YouTube and have never gotten a strike for doing that. But I've only disputed claims where the documented copyright date puts a music composition in the public domain in a performance that I recorded myself. I don't always win those disputes because some countries treat copyrights differently than the US... YouTube sometimes limits distribution to some foreign countries. My sense is they would only issue a strike if the basis of the dispute is frivolous or without foundation.

Lately YouTube has been putting advertisements on clips even without a copyright claim if the viewer is not a subscriber. So now I apply my own watermarking with Vegas and double post to Vimeo where there are no advertisements.

Btw, its apparently possible to bypass my account's YouTube applied logo watermark... I've found some of my YouTube videos uploaded to other accounts there without my YouTube applied logo. Removal of a logo is not a copyright issue... it's a violation of trademark law. I don't file claims in those instances because I encourage free redistribution for promotion but I prefer they be accompanied by my logo to promote myself. With Vimeo I can also enable public downloads for redistribution. Btw, Vimeo business accounts also have access to a royalty-free library but I've never had occasion to check it out myself.

_Mark_ wrote on 11/15/2021, 7:00 AM

Btw, its apparently possible to bypass my account's YouTube applied logo watermark... I've found some of my YouTube videos uploaded to other accounts there without my YouTube applied logo. Removal of a logo is not a copyright issue... it's a violation of trademark law.

All it does is stop people recording the screen, if the video is directly download there is no watermark, seems to be just just overlaid on screen. I always render my name into the video theses days, apart from the royalty free stuff I provide for other users to use under CC BY license :-)

As for my original issue, it is still unresolved...

I don`t think it will get resolved now, if storyblocks cant resolve it then there's no chance.

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Dexcon wrote on 11/15/2021, 7:10 AM

It's a pity that YT doesn't put the onus on the 'claimant/complainant' to prove their copyright ownership rather than putting the onus on the poster. Isn't that which would happen in a court of law?

Surely putting the onus on the claimant would mostly get rid of the frivolous claims on YT.

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_Mark_ wrote on 11/15/2021, 7:20 AM

I did contact YouTube directly through the chat widget last week, not very helpful at all. I explained everything, provided proof, links etc, when I said "if I counter claim again and get a strike I will lose any earnings" (for 3 months I think on the whole channel) their reply was "Yeah, that could happen"

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karma17 wrote on 11/15/2021, 8:04 PM

This happens to me quite frequently on YT with music I purchase through Pond5. I always file a claim and the video is re-monetized. But yeah, it is irritating to say the least. Makes me want to stay away from Story Blocks. One good thing is that it drives me more toward creating and using my own video and music for my own productions.

Reyfox wrote on 11/16/2021, 7:00 AM

Even with some Smartsound songs, that same problem happens from time to time. But every one has been cleared.

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Former user wrote on 11/16/2021, 5:25 PM

Btw, its apparently possible to bypass my account's YouTube applied logo watermark... I've found some of my YouTube videos uploaded to other accounts there without my YouTube applied logo. Removal of a logo is not a copyright issue... it's a violation of trademark law.

All it does is stop people recording the screen, if the video is directly download there is no watermark, seems to be just just overlaid on screen. I always render my name into the video theses days, apart from the royalty free stuff I provide for other users to use under CC BY license :-)

As for my original issue, it is still unresolved...

I don`t think it will get resolved now, if storyblocks cant resolve it then there's no chance.

I uploaded your video,Genie music released the copyright . I used the information you supplied here, nothing more

  • Good news! After reviewing your dispute, GENIE MUSIC has decided to release their copyright claim on your YouTube video. Video title: "Erasure Stop! Banging Hammer Remix + Instrumental 2" - The YouTube Team

_Mark_ wrote on 11/16/2021, 5:29 PM

Btw, its apparently possible to bypass my account's YouTube applied logo watermark... I've found some of my YouTube videos uploaded to other accounts there without my YouTube applied logo. Removal of a logo is not a copyright issue... it's a violation of trademark law.

All it does is stop people recording the screen, if the video is directly download there is no watermark, seems to be just just overlaid on screen. I always render my name into the video theses days, apart from the royalty free stuff I provide for other users to use under CC BY license :-)

As for my original issue, it is still unresolved...

I don`t think it will get resolved now, if storyblocks cant resolve it then there's no chance.

I uploaded your video,Genie music released the copyright . I used the information you supplied here, nothing more

  • Good news! After reviewing your dispute, GENIE MUSIC has decided to release their copyright claim on your YouTube video. Video title: "Erasure Stop! Banging Hammer Remix + Instrumental 2" - The YouTube Team

Wow, so what did you say in the counter claim to get this removed? and was your uploaded video made public?

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Former user wrote on 11/16/2021, 6:07 PM

Said the time stamped alleged infringing material is storyblocks stock footage that I am licensed to use by Storyblocks and that their video contained the same storyblocks stock footage, then gave the link to the source storyblocks video that you provided

Because it's your video and not mine, It was always unlisted, the finger printing still detects unlisted and I think private videos also, but if you would say it's because it's unlisted they had a different view on the copyright, I guess it's possible, they were making money from your video, nothing from mine

_Mark_ wrote on 11/16/2021, 6:25 PM

Thank you so much for taking the time to do this, I have put in a counter claim using the following text based on your suggestion. I will report back to let you know the results :-)

The time stamped alleged infringing material is storyblocks stock footage that I am licensed to use by Storyblocks and that your video contains the same storyblocks stock footage https://www.storyblocks.com/video/stock/80s-retro-futuristic-drive-seamless-loop-with-vintage-car-stylized-sci-fi-landscape-race-in-outrun-vj-style-night-sky-vaporwave-30-fps-3d-animation-background-for-edm-music-video-dj-set-club-4k-sz7dgavlwkfvmvpa6

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