video cutting moves slowmo and cropping to an different point!

ContentMax wrote on 3/29/2022, 9:14 AM

is there anyway Vegas will not move my slowmo / cropping etc. to an different point when i cut the video! I hate it and this isn`t solved in the last 10 years! For example you have a 30 sec. clip. You crop it, slowmo etc. and afterwards you need to cut it by 10 sec. because you need to add another clip in it. Then the Slowmo and everything will move in the clip.

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Musicvid wrote on 3/29/2022, 10:25 AM

The Auto-Ripple controls are in every version of Vegas Pro. You didn't say which version you have, but here is where they are located in Vegas Pro 19.

EricLNZ wrote on 3/29/2022, 5:15 PM

@ContentMax I cannot quite follow your problem but after your slowmo try right clicking on the timeline clip and create a subclip. That may, or may not, make a difference.

EricLNZ wrote on 3/30/2022, 4:03 AM

@ContentMax I realise now on rereading your post that the problem probably is your keyframes are moving or getting cut off when you trim the clip. To my knowledge VP doesn't have the ability to tell a keyframe that its position in the Event should remain relative to Start or Finish or move Proportionally or be Absolute. The solution is to note the keyframe positions before trimming and then reposition them afterwards.

ContentMax wrote on 3/31/2022, 12:20 PM

@ContentMax I realise now on rereading your post that the problem probably is your keyframes are moving or getting cut off when you trim the clip. To my knowledge VP doesn't have the ability to tell a keyframe that its position in the Event should remain relative to Start or Finish or move Proportionally or be Absolute. The solution is to note the keyframe positions before trimming and then reposition them afterwards.

Hey Eric, thanks for the answer. Sad that VegasPro doesn`t have a setting option to tell the Keyframes what to do. I find it very timeconsuming to reposition it after every trim or other-change. Cheers Max

john_dennis wrote on 3/31/2022, 12:58 PM

@ContentMax

I'm with @lan-mLMC on this one. I've seen a few construction sites and before anyone digs, someone walks around and drives stakes into the ground. Nest or Render To New Track.

gary-rebholz wrote on 4/8/2022, 12:14 PM

@ContentMax,

you crop it, slowmo etc. and afterwards you need to cut it by 10 sec. because you need to add another clip in it. Then the Slowmo and everything will move in the clip.

Maybe I'm missing something (in which case, please provide more detail), but what would you suggest that would be more reasonable? If we dicarded the key frame that now falls outside of the event, you'd lose your animation completely. If we instead create a new key frame at the animation progress of the new end of your event, we've now changed your animation, and certainly users would be annoyed by that. If we prevented you from trimming the event because it would change a keyframe, no one would be happy. Without the ability to read the user's mind about what you really want to happen, it seems that what we're doing is reasonable.

Now, I'm here to be enlightened more than to try to enlighten you guys, so please further explain what you expect to happen, keeping in mind that each users' intention/desire is completely 100% unpredictable on our end. We have to choose to do something. What you like will nearly almost guaranteed not be what another user likes. But maybe there's a better way to handle this. Or maybe I'm missing something.

 

EricLNZ wrote on 4/8/2022, 6:53 PM

@gary-rebholz The short answer is provide an option to give the user the choice of deciding how they want a keyframe to behave. So it doesn't fall on you to have to worry about reading the users mind. The only point of debate would be what the default should be. As mentioned earlier Vegas doesn't have the ability to tell a keyframe that its position in the Event should remain relative to Start or Finish, move Proportionally or be Absolute. Years ago a long discontinued consumer editor that I used could do this so I was surprised on moving to Vegas Movie Studio it didn't provide the same. Here's the options from my old editor:

Former user wrote on 4/8/2022, 7:50 PM

@EricLNZ That seems like the same 'problem' with Track Motion, animate with keyframes, move media on timeline and the keyframes don't move with the media.Although it being Track level it's logical that it works like that, but is there anyway of moving those keyframes easily with the event/media?

Because I've never seen anyone else complain about this I am thinking there is an option to do this

EricLNZ wrote on 4/9/2022, 3:28 AM

Because I've never seen anyone else complain about this I am thinking there is an option to do this

@Former user Doesn't "Lock Envelopes to Events" achieve this for you?