A method to reduce file size in Movie Studio 12?

Einor wrote on 1/19/2014, 6:50 AM

Hello
I got the Movie Studio Platinum 12 Suite about two days ago and it is pretty neat to use.
But i have question regarding the filze size of the rendered videos:
Are there any options i can reduce it without loosing too much on the quality?

Here are two example videos.

The first one i rendered with:

-Movie Studio 12 Plantinum Suite
-Internet HD 1080p
-30 fps
- Bitrates from 10.000.000 to 8.000.000
Renderqualtiy: Optimum.

The second one i gave to a friend who rendererd it with Vegas 8 and a Debug Frameserver and Megui and the h264 encode.

You can notice a difference in the video quality, but the same goes for the file size.
The first Video (MSP12) has a file size of 60 MB for 1 minute of video
The second Video (V8 Debug) has a file size of 20MB for 1 minute of video.

After seeing this difference i was pretty baffled. Do you have any advice or tips how i could use to reduce the file size?

Comments

vkmast wrote on 1/19/2014, 7:51 AM

Pls do a search on bitrate and file size on e.g. these forums.

ritsmer wrote on 1/19/2014, 7:56 AM

Welcome to the Vegas Forums.

If you render with a bit-rate of about 8.000.000 bps then every second 8.000.000 / 8 = 1.000.000 Bytes = 1 MB data is written to your hard disk - plus some for the audio.
So you can not do anything about that.

You can, however, change the output settings either by using the button "Customize Template" in the Render As window like lowering the bps - or you may chose another output format which uses another codec which again may deliver a better compression giving better quality for the same bps speed.

Steve Grisetti wrote on 1/19/2014, 7:58 AM

Remember that every video has an optimal size, bit rate, etc., depending on how you're going to use the video.

You'd use a completely different setting to create video for YouTube than you would to create a video for a BluRay or for use in another project.

So think in terms of how you plan to use your output movie. There are editing templates, delivery templates, online templates, etc. Once you decide how you plan to use the video, you can determine its best output template -- and optimal size.

Einor wrote on 1/19/2014, 8:36 AM

Thanks for the fast answers.
Yes i plan to upload those videos mainly on Youtube. That's why i thought the MainConcept HD Internet 1080p would be a very good choice. After searching for some tutorials, i saw them using the same preferences. But if you have any advice or better settings therefore i will gladly take them :)

I really like the result i got with that Main Concept, it looks better than i expected.
And the approximately 600-900m for a fully edited 10-15 minutes video dont sound too bad.
But yes, my issue is the file size since my upload speed is abyssmal, and for a 10-15 minute fully edited video i would probably need about 6-8 hours of upload time. ;)

And after yesterdays testing the whole evening and night, practicing and searching for advice/guides/tutorials, after writing my humble yet newbish plea into that forum, i finally found a guide on how to use Debug FrameServer with MSP12 about 30 minutes ago...
The file size for the 1 minute Video is about 30 MB which is great for me.

If you stil have an advice for a better solution i am glad to hear them.
Some aditional infos i forgot to give:

- Image of the Project Settings/ Render Settings (German though)
http://abload.de/img/msp12preference-rendenalvl.jpg

- The Source file was recorded with Dxtory, Lagarith Lossless Codec, in 1920x1080; 30 fps

musicvid10 wrote on 1/19/2014, 9:34 AM

A method similar to the one your friend used, and using the same encoder, is here.
It's friendly enough that most people can wrap their brains around it.

The above posts are correct in that it's all about bitrate; however, the x264 encoder can be far more efficient than Mainconcept in some circumstances, producing the smaller file sizes you spoke of.

I still recommend uploading 720p to Youtube for maximum compatibility and deliverability with the majority of home systems. You will get some variation of opinion on this.

Sorry that some of the references are dated, but you'll get the gist of it: