So I won't lose anything (the FX) when upgrading? I won't gain anything by upgrading to 17 Suite over 17 Platinum? This makes no sense.


This is all very vague with these upgrades and what they actually are and what will happen if you install upgrade over older version you already have; what you will lose, what you will gain, etc.. How about a dang list MAGIX? Would it be that hard? 🤷‍♂️

They list a FX pack as the major upgrade that about doubles the price but do not tell you what's in it, but instead point to a video which is equally vague and lacks any real info. I mean just tell me what I am buying before I buy. 🙄

For reference this is the comparison chart. notice no real info given anywhere about what is in that FX pack.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/newsletter/upgrade-vegas-movie-studio/product-comparison/#productMenu

If the info is there, it is hiding 8 layers deep somewhere.

Oh I just found something I did not see before- Down t the bottom of page:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/newsletter/upgrade-vegas-movie-studio/features/#productMenu

"FXhome Ignite Advanced VFX Pack Gunfire pack, Beautify, VFX: Damage, VFX: Retro, Color: Starter

Enhance your movies with effects and filters that look like they were made for a Hollywood blockbuster. With 16 of FXhome most stunning effects, you will give your videos a unique, pro-level look. For example, add shadows and highlights to create the perfect mood for the scene.

Exclusively in Suite"

Notice it still does not give a complete list of the added FX you get when you spend almost double on the SUITE version. I may want some I may not but hard to know when it's a big secret.

What are the "16 of FXhome most stunning effects" Magix? Is there a list somewhere? Maybe even examples of what they do? 🤷‍♂️

Have you tested with the free 30-day trial?

No, I do not want to download and install a demo just to see what FX you get with it.

OK. FX are listed in the product pages as you found out, but presets are not. I assume the short video there did not help you either.

https://fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express

the VFX is mostly mambo jambo stuff.

It says there are 16 effects that you get with Suite over Platinum. Video is absolutely no help at all. Product page lists a few as I mentioned above but not a complete list of differences. I think I understand what you mean by presets now. They must be listing each preset as an "FX" or something? I don't know.

Also some of those effects it seems like I already have with Movie Studio Platinum 16. "VFX: Damage", "Color: Starter", "VFX: Lighting" (not even on list for Suite), "VFX: Neon Lights" (don;t use it but those presets all sound exactly like ones I have already).

So does that mean the ones I already have in 16 Platinum quit working if I upgrade to 17 Platinum if they are not included in that version? They only keep working if I upgrade to 17 Suite? What if some of the ones I have and use now are not even included in 17 Suite? I just lose them? I have no idea until I upgrade to 17 Suite or Platinum to find out.

Also I have several custom presets on those effects I use all the time and I don't want to lose. Some of those are carried over from 14 Platinum, maybe even 13 Platinum. I know a lot have stopped working along the way when upgrading.

I don't think downloading a separate demo will answer any of those questions about the upgrade. I don't know why they make it so difficult to figure out what happens with all the plug-ins when you upgrade.

https://i.imgur.com/fsim0z0.jpg

Basically just wondering which of these I will lose or which I will keep depending on if I upgrade to 17 Platinum or 17 Suite. Maybe someone from MAGIX who came up with all these bundles and controls what happens when you upgrade can tell me? 🤷‍♂️ I certainly can't figure it out.

https://fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express#vfx-starter may give you an idea of the effects included in the "Pack".

And I guess you can find out which come over to v.17 only if you install the trial. It's highly recommended always anyway [pinned post on the forum]. Your choice of course.

https://fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express#vfx-starter may give you an idea of the effects included in the "Pack".

And I guess you can find out which come over to v.17 only if you install the trial. It's highly recommended always anyway [pinned post on the forum]. Your choice of course.

Yes I saw that, that's when I realized some of those that I already have are in different packages not included in either update (possibly).

Also I don't know what happens to legacy FX you already had when you upgrade. If install the demo that is not going on top of current 16 Platinum install like an upgrade would, that would be a separate installation, so that wouldn't necessarily tell me what would happen to my previously installed FX that are not included in the update version.

This is way to complicated. They should just let you keep the FX you already have when upgrading instead of constantly changing the packages. Maybe they do.. I don't know. I guess that is part of the many questions I have.

When I upgraded before I don't think the FX packages changed all that much so it wasn't an issue. Now from 16 to 17 seems I might lose some things I do not want to lose. I'd like to know before I go willy nilly installing updates over top of my current program just to "see what happens".

I'd like to know before I go willy nilly installing updates over top of my current program just to "see what happens".

Installing the trial of v.17 does not affect your existing v.16. It's a separate installation, not an update.

I'd like to know before I go willy nilly installing updates over top of my current program just to "see what happens".

Installing the trial of v.17 does not affect your existing v.16. It's a separate installation, not an update.

Right.. That's what I thought and said in post above.

So installing 17 demo won't tell me if my current FX in 16 Platinum that is not part of 17 platinum or suite will be deleted or what when I go to install upgrade.

Previous versions are not overwritten by a new version. You can have several versions installed simultaneously. E.g. I currently have MSPs 10 to 17 and VPros 11 to 17 installed. Many of the 3rd-party plugins may be version-specific.

Ok.. So yeah I have Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 13 through 16 now.. with all the FX packs they came with.. So hopefully if I upgrade to 17 Platinum I will be able to keep all those old FX packs, etc..

Makes it hard to do a fresh installation though. I'd like to but I have so many presets fro different things it would be a nightmare to try to recreate all that.

You may not be able to keep all of them in v.17. That's why I keep suggesting to try.

Hmmm.. I'd be doing an upgrade, not a fresh install if I bought 17 Platinum or Suite.. I thought you were talking about that not a separate install. I realize you can have separate installs but when upgrading it seems as though new is overwriting the old one, but I'm not sure how the licensing works with those FX packs when doing that. It is as clear as mud to me now.

Hmmm.. I'd be doing an upgrade, not a fresh install if I bought 17 Platinum or Suite.. I thought you were talking about that not a separate install. I realize you can have separate installs but when upgrading it seems as though new is overwriting the old one, but I'm not sure how the licensing works with those FX packs when doing that. It is as clear as mud to me now.

Not so, your upgrade will be a separate install. You will have both 16 and 17 working on your system. 17 does not override 16. The "upgrade" refers to just pricing as you are already a VMS user. Both a new purchase or "upgrade" are identical programmes.

Rather than chase your tail around in circles it's best to do as vkmast has recommended and download the trial and find out for yourself which FX from previous versions will work for you.

Thanks @EricLNZ for confirming ;)

Thanks @EricLNZ for confirming ;)

Yes it takes several attempts sometimes to get a message through 😀

I see where they install to a different location, but they must use the same library of files because all my presets and everything carry over as if it was installed on top of old program. I can't member exactly where those files are without looking, in the app data folder or user data folder somewhere I guess.

It's not installed on top of an old program. Your presets, customised render templates etc are stored in various locations and your VMS17 installation will go looking for them so they are made available in VMS17. Likewise it will go looking for OFX on your system which it's able to use, and present them to you in the VMS17 Video FX window.