Hey VP, leave my microphone alone!

michael-harrison wrote on 6/10/2020, 11:10 AM

I've looked through both public and internal settings and haven't found a way to tell VP to leave the microphone alone.

I'm doing other things (most often on a video call) and on startup VP touches the microphone and cuts me off.

I'm *never* going to use the recording capability in VP so I'd rather disable it altogether.

Is there a way to do that?

System 1:

Windows 10
i9-10850K 10 Core
128.0G RAM
Nvidia GTX 1660 Studio [most likely latest]
Resolution        1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
Video Memory 6G GDDR5

 

System 2:

Lenovo Yoga 720
Core i7-7700 2.8Ghz quad core, 8 logical
16G ram
Intel HD 630 gpu 1G vram
Nvidia GTX 1050 gpu 2G vram

 

Comments

Musicvid wrote on 6/10/2020, 3:43 PM

Not natively that I know of, traditionally the last-opened Windows application sequesters the audio drivers, but you might ask on the scripting forum

fifonik wrote on 6/10/2020, 4:41 PM

I'm the second one on this feature request.

Camcorder: Panasonic X1500 + Panasonic X920 + GoPro Hero 11 Black

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NLE: Vegas Pro [Edit] 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19

Former user wrote on 6/10/2020, 5:53 PM

I was looking into this program the other day, it's used for routing audio, and I'd be using it for the OBS reason in this video. It might be possible to ensure vegas can' ever access your microphone. Software can autostart at boot. I haven't installed yet, if anyone is more familiar with it, they can chime in.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/11/2020, 12:47 AM

I think who's in control of how audio devices get shared or appropriated for exclusive use depends on how Vegas is configured. If Vegas is configured to use the Microsoft Sound Mapper (Preferences, Audio Device), then Windows can control it if the driver permits it to. The Windows control is in Settings, System, Sound...

But you can always bypass Windows control in Vegas by specifying explicitly which mic device you want Vegas to use to record in Preferences, Audio Device. I find doing that more convenient with external usb audio. Again, the audio device driver usually has settings on whether it will allow exclusive or shared use. Generally since I often pop in and out of Vegas to do audio edits to Vegas audio tracks with external apps like Sonar, Sound Forge, or Audacity, shared access to playback devices is required. But I usually keep mic access exclusive.

michael-harrison wrote on 6/11/2020, 10:23 AM

@Howard-Vigorita your image link is broken.

Unfortunately I don't have the controls I expect from VP The only options I have for audio recording devices are:

Microsoft Sound Mapper
Microsoft Sound Mapper - Left
Microsoft Sound Mapper - Right

None of the legitimate system input devices are listed.

I've recently gone through all my devices and set them to shareable at the system level. I'll have to keep an eye out for any new problems that causes.

[time passes]

I see now that if I select "Windows Classic Wave Driver" that I'm able to choose a specific input and output device. I'll have to try that and see how it affects stability as well as the takeover issue I'd been having

System 1:

Windows 10
i9-10850K 10 Core
128.0G RAM
Nvidia GTX 1660 Studio [most likely latest]
Resolution        1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
Video Memory 6G GDDR5

 

System 2:

Lenovo Yoga 720
Core i7-7700 2.8Ghz quad core, 8 logical
16G ram
Intel HD 630 gpu 1G vram
Nvidia GTX 1050 gpu 2G vram

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 6/11/2020, 10:51 AM

@Howard-Vigorita your image link is broken.

Odd, looked fine after I posted it. Just re-upped the image.

hambonio wrote on 11/20/2023, 12:50 PM

I am running into issues with this. I am waiting for a new wired headset to arrive, but currently have to use my wife's Bluetooth headset to edit with and it has a built in microphone. At first I noticed the audio quality drop significantly at random times using Vegas Pro (20 and 21). After research I realized that the sound quality drops when the microphone is enabled to share bandwidth.

So now I have blocked microphone use through windows system settings. Great, that problem solved.

However, now Vegas constantly is preventing my play back with a popup error and I have to re-start VP to be able to play on my timeline again. My project s are large and take a few minutes to load every time. Is there anywhere WITHIN VP to block microphone access? Why does it want it at all? I never ever record anything directly to VP, so this is a function I do not need.

hambonio wrote on 11/20/2023, 4:22 PM

My wired microphone-less headset has arrived. VP still keeps giving me this error. I cannot use the program for more than 5 minutes in a row before having to restart. There are NO microphones connected to this PC...

I am running into issues with this. I am waiting for a new wired headset to arrive, but currently have to use my wife's Bluetooth headset to edit with and it has a built in microphone. At first I noticed the audio quality drop significantly at random times using Vegas Pro (20 and 21). After research I realized that the sound quality drops when the microphone is enabled to share bandwidth.

So now I have blocked microphone use through windows system settings. Great, that problem solved.

However, now Vegas constantly is preventing my play back with a popup error and I have to re-start VP to be able to play on my timeline again. My project s are large and take a few minutes to load every time. Is there anywhere WITHIN VP to block microphone access? Why does it want it at all? I never ever record anything directly to VP, so this is a function I do not need.

 

Dexcon wrote on 11/20/2023, 4:42 PM

Have you tried the available audio device options Options/Preferences/Audio Device (tab)?

Usually, Microsoft Sound Mapper is the least likely to cause problems assuming that Manage Audio Devices is set up approrpriately in Windows Control Panel.

Also, is there any setting in 'Default audio recording device' that might need to be turned off?

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

hambonio wrote on 11/20/2023, 4:50 PM

Have you tried the available audio device options Options/Preferences/Audio Device (tab)?

Usually, Microsoft Sound Mapper is the least likely to cause problems assuming that Manage Audio Devices is set up approrpriately in Windows Control Panel.

Also, is there any setting in 'Default audio recording device' that might need to be turned off?

This is exactly what my preferences screen looks like. No default audio recording device available to select. But yet.... still errors.

hambonio wrote on 11/20/2023, 5:01 PM

Going to try the nuclear option. Restore my system to the way it was when I installed VP21 a few days ago. Before the wireless headphones/microphone were ever introduced to the system.

Dexcon wrote on 11/20/2023, 6:09 PM

Or maybe first try resetting Vegas Pro back to its default settings as per https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

... but any custom Vegas Pro settings will be lost.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

hambonio wrote on 11/20/2023, 8:05 PM

Or maybe first try resetting Vegas Pro back to its default settings as per https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

... but any custom Vegas Pro settings will be lost.

I just went to my system restore via Acronis. That is much easier for me as I keep most files off of my system drive and takes less than 5 minutes. I have a lot of custom VP settings and key bindings so that would have been a bigger pain to re-set up. And I get a fresh feeling PC every time I do it! Although this particular backup is less than a week old as I just purchased VP21. I have been using it for a few hours now, and no popups blocking my playback so far (fingers crossed). First thing I did was disable all microphone access from the start in Windows, so hopefully it should never be an issue.

Dexcon wrote on 11/20/2023, 8:12 PM

@hambonio  ... I'm happy to hear that you've solved the problem and hope that it stays resolved 🌞.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 12TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor