How to scroll a message across the bottom of the screen?

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 4:10 PM

I'm having a lot of difficulty trying to scroll one line of text from off the right side of the screen, to the left side of the screen. I try to animate using the location setting, but I can't figure it out. There's got to be an easier way?

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Radomir wrote on 12/19/2019, 4:58 PM

Use Pan&Crop

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:11 PM

Ah, that's certainly much easier to use than those lanes and curve things! BUT, for some reason, the beginning of the text is getting cut off (the G in Greetings), and at the end of the text, one and a half words are cut off (it should say Production Group). Why?

Actually, I just noticed, it should be Seasons Greetings, so another word is chopped off the front =(

Jack S wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:33 PM

Use Vegas Titles & Text.

Type all your characters in then move the whole text box off the screen at the right. You can't do it with the location square cross-hair, you have to type in an x coordinate with a positive number. This number will depend upon the number of characters in your string (I used 3). Turn on keyframing then move your cursor to the end of the keyframing box. Type another x coordinate in but this time it must be a negative number (I used minus 3). A little experimenting may be required but I've just created a simple one with about 90 characters.

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fr0sty wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:38 PM

Or you can use track motion instead of pan & crop, keyframe it. The great thing about vegas, many paths to the same outcome.

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MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:49 PM

@Jack S, your instructions don't appear to work at all. It's a 25 second clip. Nothing happens for a long time (13 seconds), and then when it does start, it's scrolling the wrong way (left to right instead of right to left) 😢

vkmast wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:51 PM

It works. I just tested the same method. And as Mike K said once (or twice) re (Legacy) Text: "rs170a wrote on 5/17/2012, Use the tools in the Placement tab and keyframe it."

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:51 PM

The other thing I notice, when I edit the last key frame, the edits don't seem to take on that last key frame. What is the diagonal line?

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 5:58 PM

I don't know how you're doing it with @Jack S's method. I've been at it for nearly 2 hours and have made zero progress. Text won't scroll in the right direction and it doesn't start at the end of the frame either. Clicking on a key frame and changing the number in the location box doesn't seem to save. It's like I have to click on the keyframe, and then use my cursor key to move one click over from the keyframe, makes no sense.

I have discovered that the first number, i.e. the starting number has to be negative, not the end number. If the first number is positive, then that makes it scroll in the wrong direction, so Jack got that part flipped.

Radomir wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:00 PM

If you using Pan&Vrop, and something is cutted of, you maybe need to "match aspect ratio" and then move "F".

Ah, last frame actually is.. next clip first frame. You never be able to see this "last frame". So if you need and see changes on end of clip, you need to back one frame and there put keyframe.

Jack S wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:01 PM

MikeLV

You must have got your plusses and minusses the wrong way round.

The diagonal line is the traverse of the x coordinate across the screen.

Did you add the last keyframe with the 'plus keyframe button

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MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:04 PM

No, I clicked on the timeline, made the edit to the location box, and when you click out of the edit box, it makes the key frame automatically

Jack S wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:12 PM

I have discovered that the first number, i.e. the starting number has to be negative, not the end number. If the first number is positive, then that makes it scroll in the wrong direction, so Jack got that part flipped.

It depends upon which way you want the text to scroll. I did say that some experimentation may be required. I was describing how to scroll from off the right edge of the screen to off the left edge of the screen. This was your original question, right? Your diagonal line shows me that you have the negative number at the wrong keyframe. Negative x coordinates are off the left hand side of the screen, positive x coordinates are off the right hand side of the screen. This means, if you want to scroll right to left, the first x coordinate needs to be positive and the last x coordinate needs to be negative. Makes sense?

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MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:17 PM

No, it doesn't make sense at all. I even erase the key frames and start fresh. I add one, copy it to the end, then try to modify it. When I modify it, it adds a 3rd one?!?!?! The first number must be negative to scroll from right side to left side. If I make the first number positive, it scrolls the opposite way

Radomir wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:26 PM

It's complete waste of time imho. Use pan&crop instead. It's about ten clicks.

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:26 PM

Part of the problem seems to be that you can't even click on the end X key frame because it doesn't show up like the first one, it goes outside of the whatever you call that area, and then Vegas adding in some additional key frame for unknown reason. You can see it in my screen recording, what is that all about?

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:27 PM

@Radomir, it won't work, for some reason the first and last word get cut off. But I do agree with you the key framing is much easier in the pan/crop window. But I can't have missing words :(

Radomir wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:27 PM

Show me all screen with preview and edit window

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:33 PM

If you using Pan&Vrop, and something is cutted of, you maybe need to "match aspect ratio" and then move "F".

Ah, last frame actually is.. next clip first frame. You never be able to see this "last frame". So if you need and see changes on end of clip, you need to back one frame and there put keyframe.

The aspect ratio in the pan/crop window is locked, besides I didn't resize the frame in that window, just moving it along the X axis. I don't understand what you mean about the "last frame, next clip first frame." It's pretty simple. I just want one line of text to scroll from off screen on the right side, to off screen on the left side. I guess you'd call this a marquee.

fr0sty wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:35 PM

Pressing that "track cursor" button is key to making this work right. You can do this with event pan/crop as well, but if the text exceeds the edges of its frame (which isn't always the same as the edges of the video frame), it will be cropped off like you were experiencing earlier. Track motion does not have that limitation.

Last changed by fr0sty on 12/19/2019, 6:37 PM, changed a total of 3 times.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Radomir wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:38 PM

MikeLV - if you put text on center, like on fr0sty screen, then moving it in Pan&crop, it literally can't cut anything.

 

Last/Last -1 frame:

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:39 PM

Ok, I will try it with track motion and report back.

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:44 PM

Pressing that "track cursor" button is key to making this work right. You can do this with event pan/crop as well, but if the text exceeds the edges of its frame (which isn't always the same as the edges of the video frame), it will be cropped off like you were experiencing earlier. Track motion does not have that limitation.

Unfortunately, same issue with first and last words getting chopped off, and it's harder to do with track motion because you can't see what's happening. It's sliding in super fast and then it slows, down, really weird. FUCK!!!

MikeLV wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:49 PM

MikeLV - if you put text on center, like on fr0sty screen, then moving it in Pan&crop, it literally can't cut anything.

 

Last/Last -1 frame:

No, I'm placing the text at the bottom of the screen, like a news channel ticker. And I haven't made any changes to the frame or anything. vertically the text is fine. But in both pan and crop, and track motion, the text at the beginning and end of the line are chopped off. I have zero control over track motion, I can't tell where to place the frame. But even when I place it where I think it's close, the text flies into the center of the screen SUPER fast, and then it slows down. But both key frames are on linear so why would it do that? My screen is about to become a punching bag, approaching 3 hours on this simple thing.

Radomir wrote on 12/19/2019, 6:52 PM

I can't imagine this. Can you record video of this? I think walkthrough by fr0sty is clear and simple. There is no place for mistake