MOV files preview problem. (low fps and freezing)

jcompguy wrote on 4/4/2016, 2:54 PM
Hello, I have minimal experience with Sony Vegas and need some help. I have Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum version 10.0 (Build 179). MP4 and some other types of video files work just fine, but MOV files have an issue in the preview:

-When playing MOV files in the preview window, it automatically changes the resolution and framerate of the playback from 1080p to something lower.

-The video also stutters and isn't smooth.

-The size of the video doesn't seem to matter, 100MB, 500MB, 3GB all play the same in the preview.

-MP4 files play perfectly at 1080p in the preview.

-MOV files play perfectly outside of the preview.

-My computer is Windows 10, i7 6700K, 32GB of RAM, GTX 970 card.

I don't think it's a hardware issue since Vegas only uses like 10% CPU and RAM with the movies playing. I also tried setting the RAM preview setting to 1024, although I'm not sure exactly what it does.

Is there any way to get my MOV files playing smoothly at 1080p in preview, or will I need to keep converting them?

Thank you very much for any help.

Comments

vkmast wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:10 PM
32 GB of RAM does not matter here. VMSP 10 is 32-bit only.
32-bit vs. 64-bit
Former user wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:21 PM
MOV files will never play well on Vegas. They are an Apple codec and are not optimized for Windows computers. If you need to see full frame playback, you need to either convert or preview at a lower quality.
Eagle Six wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:23 PM
As I understand it, even a 64 bit system running a 64 bit version of Vegas is still only going to get 32-bit from Quicktime on a Windows machine, which I think is 2 gb max.

Where does your MOV file come from, what codec specs are inside the MOV container? Not all codec specs inside an MOV container play well in Vegas.

What version Quicktime are you using? I'm using version 7 build 7.76.80.95 and not having problems (however I'm also on Windows 7 SP1 box), but I have read that others have more problems with the latest Quicktime release and overcome problems by going back to 7.76.80.95......just a thought....


Best Regards....George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

jcompguy wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:33 PM
Thank you for the replies everyone!

I'm using the current version, 7.7.9. I'll try the version you're running to see if that helps. Also, how do I check the codec specs? The movies are from a Nikon camera and a drone camera. Obviously I know very little about movie editing, so I really appreciate any help you guys can give me.
Eagle Six wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:45 PM
Download a free copy of 'Mediainfo', at SourceForge. Be caution when installing, it will try to install other products. Then open your source file in 'text' mode and paste it here. Are you having the same problem with the Nikon MOV -vs- the drone MOV? A short test may be in order so you don't mix the two in your project.

What drone camera are you using? How many MOV files do you have in your project?

I have a small Nikon camera and the MOV files play fine in my Vegas Pro 13, Win 7. That really doesn't mean anything for you, just a comment.

Most of the reported problems I read about with MOV files in Vegas or Movie Studio are based on the NLE locking up or crashing because of the 32 bit Quicktime, and having too many MOV files in the project.


Best Regards......George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

vkmast wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:48 PM
>>>how do I check the codes specs?<<<

"MediaInfo is a free download from SourceForge. But watch to opt out of additional software at install."
Post text view here.

(Description:
MediaInfo is a convenient unified display of the most relevant technical and tag data for video and audio files.)

edit: George is fast=)
musicvid10 wrote on 4/4/2016, 3:55 PM
These guys are leading you down the correct path, and if these are 4K MOV from your drone ~envy~ one eventual solution might be conversion in the free GoPro Studio as an intermediate path to Vegas..

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