Movie Studio 12 ignoring 16:9 flag in mov file

duhmez wrote on 3/5/2014, 11:56 PM
Using HP camera the native res is 1440x1080 with 16:9 aspect ratio flag set in the file. I have used these files in my movie stuido 11 without issues. Today I tried one with my new Movie Studio 12 and noticed it added letterboxing to the left and right side of the screen, effectively squishing the video. I did notice in time and as a workaround I disabled the maintain aspect ratio on the video track and now it fills the screen as it should. Any thoughts on this? new bug in the new version or...? IN the meantime I can work around it as I said easy enough, but it should read the aspect ratio int he file. For the record, it is .mov container containing H264 video.

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vkmast wrote on 3/6/2014, 4:06 AM
I came across something somewhat similar, while testing this problem reported here
bug detecting 1440x1080 video as 4:3.
After a long back-and-forth with tech support I gave up as they never acknowledged it.
duhmez wrote on 3/6/2014, 7:20 PM
Though you reported it as detecting it as 4:3, and I reported it is ignoring it (1:1) I am sure it is actually either case, but not both. However it would be impossible for us end users to tell if it is DETECTING 4:3, or IGNORING 16:9 and just assuming it is 1:1 because in either situation the end result is the exact same output, as 1440x1080 happens to also be perfectly 4:3 anyway! Again not a huge problem but it is not great having to turn off AR detection and pay closer attention to each video track to ensure everythign is right. I hope it gets sorted some time.
Markk655 wrote on 3/6/2014, 7:40 PM
Can you clarify whether this seen in the preview screen or after rendering?

Are you able to upload a short clip to try out?
musicvid10 wrote on 3/6/2014, 8:28 PM
Not respecting anamorphic is a long-standing shortcoming of Quicktime for Windows libraries, and not Vegas products. It's been around as long as I can remember, and that's quite a long time ;?)

The solution is to render 1.0 PAR (square pixels) at 1920x1080 resolution in Vegas. btw, Quicktime player "will" recognize anamorphic flags from Handbrake, which uses its own libraries, in most cases.
duhmez wrote on 3/7/2014, 8:03 PM
he problem is shown in the preview window, that is where I noticed it. The file down below plays properly in windows media player and media player classic, but when I put into Vegas Mivie studio 12 build 1184, 64 bit, it is not recognizing the 16:9 and adding letterboxing. Grab it from my dropbox. This file is unmodified as it comes out of my camera.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11131124/HPIM0531.MOV
duhmez wrote on 3/7/2014, 8:04 PM
Windows directshow is rendering it properly, movie studio is not. I made another post with a link to a file for testing purposes in my other post, in my dropbox.
musicvid10 wrote on 3/7/2014, 11:39 PM
"he problem is shown in the preview window, that is where I noticed it. "
You have to "Match Media Settings" in Vegas project, and "Simulate Device Aspect" in the Preview Settings. This is a specific procedure, that must be done for every source. It is not automatic for good reasons. Do a search.

Nothing wrong with your video or its preview in Vegas once the project settings are correct.



duhmez wrote on 3/9/2014, 7:16 AM
Thanks for the tip. I will look into this. I noiced the issue first because whatever the default setting was from my vegas 11, it always worked automagically.
musicvid10 wrote on 3/9/2014, 10:16 AM
It never works automatically, never has. And for very good reasons (what about mixed media)??

If you got lucky and dropped your media into a project that already had the same display aspect, that's a different statement.

vkmast wrote on 3/9/2014, 11:06 AM
As mv advises, go to Project Properties > Video to match media video settings.
Don't forget to simulate device aspect ratio (RC on the preview window).

MSP 13 (as well as VPro 12) adds a new option. The first time you add video media to the timeline, a splash screen will ask you whether you want to match your project video settings to match the first video media you add to the timeline. You can also select there to always base project video settings on first-added video.
musicvid10 wrote on 3/10/2014, 10:52 AM
vkmast,
Good to know they made this more intuitive. Thanks.