One serial number on two machines?

Lou van Wijhe wrote on 2/8/2013, 11:20 PM
I intend to replace my 32 bit PC with a 64 bit more powerful one. At the moment I still have to finish a project on the old machine but I know that during the transition period I'll be curious enough to try something on the new machine in 64 bit mode.

I doubt that I can use one serial number on different machines but there is no harm in asking, is there? I couldn't find a clear answer on the SCS support pages and in my experience getting an answer in this forum is swifter than with SCS.

Lou

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musicvid10 wrote on 2/8/2013, 11:31 PM
You are allowed to have two registered copies of the same version of Vegas running on two different machines.
Lou van Wijhe wrote on 2/8/2013, 11:35 PM
That's good, thank you for the info!

Lou

P.S.
The answer came in 11 minutes. This forum is geat!
Gyan wrote on 2/9/2013, 12:47 AM
[I]You are allowed to have two registered copies of the same version of Vegas running on two different machines.[/I]

Just to be clear: are you saying that I can install my single-license copy of Vegas on a 2nd machine?

If so, could you point to some documentation for this? Because the text I found onthis page seems to say different:

"[I]Sony grants you a limited license to use the Software only on one (1) computer or mobile device, as applicable, and you may create one (1) back up copy of the Software[/i]"

I understand back up copy to mean data archival of the installer(s) i.e. not a 2nd operational instance.
ChristoC wrote on 2/9/2013, 1:21 AM
I've found in practice that you can install the software on as many of your own computers as you like; just use only one of them at a time.
vkmast wrote on 2/9/2013, 3:27 AM
Gyan,
This "documentation" is still on the SCS KB
https://www.custcenter.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4559
quote from the beginning
What is the policy for installing and registering a Sony Creative Software program on multiple computers?
As there's the word use in the EULA, I think Christo's right in practice.
Chienworks wrote on 2/9/2013, 3:45 AM
I have no idea where the "two machines" came from. Some folks started posting that as the answer and others have continued to copy it. Nothing from Sony has ever specified a limit.

I've had the same Vegas license installed on 5 computers at once. And while it's physically possible to run the same license on more than one simultaneously, the license does state that you really should only use it on one at a time. If you need to use it on multiple computers simultaneously then you need to have as many licenses as simultaneous uses.

But, there's no limit to the number of computers you can install it on.
PeterDuke wrote on 2/9/2013, 7:40 AM
Possible scenarios:

If it is licensed to a single user then that user could run it on as many machines he/she likes, but nobody else is able to use that software.

If it is licensed to a single user on a single computer, then only the licensed person may use it on the designated computer.

If it is licensed to a single computer, any user of that computer may use the software. These days, a signature code based on the computer configuration is used to police the use on a single computer.

If it is "like a book" anybody may use it provided no more than one copy is being run at any point in time. (Usually honour system.)

Fair use, where a strict legal point of view may be relaxed. For example, the licence may say single computer, but nobody will be worried if you have it on two computers provided that only one copy is run at a time. (Honour system.)
PeterDuke wrote on 2/9/2013, 7:46 AM
So far as SCS is concerned, they get a computer ID when you activate the software, so they know when you are installing it on machines with different architecture. Perhaps if the user name and/or email address is the same, they don't worry.

Has anybody ever got a slap on the wrist from SCS for multiple installations?
Maverick wrote on 2/9/2013, 7:53 AM
Occasionally if you've had to re-install several times due to installation/hardware errors you have to contact Sony to explain why you have attempted so many installations. Never had a problem sorting it out and they reset their counter.
musicvid10 wrote on 2/9/2013, 8:14 AM
"Nothing from Sony has ever specified a limit."

My Vegas 8 manual says you can install on two network render clients. That's where the information I repeated came from. Implies limited simultaneous use.

In practice, one can have it installed on multiple machines. Sony Knowledgebase says this:

"If multiple,

https://www.custcenter.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4559/kw/eula
vkmast wrote on 2/9/2013, 8:47 AM
>>>I couldn't find a clear answer on the SCS support pages
As suggested a couple of times in this thread, there is a clear answer in SCS KB article 4559 (Support > Knowledgebase).
I agree with the OP that the forum is usually swifter.
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 2/9/2013, 11:56 AM
I'm dual booting and have SV 11 and 12 installed on both drives without any problems. I did get a warning from Win7 firewall stating that Vegas wanted to read or write to my harddrive. Not sure what that was about.

Craig
JohnnyRoy wrote on 2/9/2013, 1:17 PM
> "As suggested a couple of times in this thread, there is a clear answer in SCS KB article 4559 (Support > Knowledgebase)."

Actually that article couldn't further from "clear" as it now appears to be blatantly wrong. The article is dated "Published 06/08/2009 11:12 AM | Updated 10/04/" but it points to an EULA that is dated 2011! I have no doubt that the old EULA that it pointed to in 2010 allowed installation on multiple computers as long as only one person was using them but the new updated 2011 EULA no longer agrees with the Knowledge Base article.

It looks like in 2011 Sony updated license agreement so that 99.9% of their customer base are now in violation of because almost all of us have at least a desktop and a laptop to do our job and the new agreement very explicitly states it can be installed on one (1) and only one (1) computer period. Very interesting.

~jr
vkmast wrote on 2/9/2013, 1:27 PM
Johnnyroy,
I had noticed that the newer EULA is indeed different. That's why I cited "is still on KB.
Interesting to say the least.
Maybe someone at SCS will update the article.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 2/9/2013, 5:32 PM
You can have as many installed as you can reasonably justify for a single user. Only one can be USED at any one time.

I'm sure this is the current (and old) intention, and is verified by SCS continuing to approve my 4 installed machines authorised withing several hours, of course with different machine IDs.

If a new EULA says different, then it would seem to be that which is in error.

geoff
Geoff_Wood wrote on 2/9/2013, 5:34 PM
[i]"If it is "like a book" anybody may use it provided no more than one copy is being run at any point in time. (Usually honour system.)"[i/]

This is the correct one. It's pretty clear and shouldn't be difficult to understand.

geoff
musicvid10 wrote on 2/9/2013, 6:15 PM
The legal types at Sony probably restricted the EULA to cover their tails in a worst-case scenario (pirating).

The practical people at Sony have apparently not changed their practice, and won't unless your serial number shows up on hundreds of machines. Just good business practice.
Barry W. Hull wrote on 2/9/2013, 7:18 PM
Rather than spending time updating the EULA, I would prefer to see Sony crack down on the rampant pirating of their software. Free Keygens are ALL over the internet for Vegas Pro. Everytime someone steals it, profits are not what they should be, makes it less worthwhile for Sony to invest dollars improving Vegas, my two cents. I suppose I just hate a thief.