renders to m2ts not completed-very frustrating

raimonde wrote on 12/24/2011, 3:05 PM
I have an i7, 8 core, 12 gig windows 7 computer using MS10 platinum. This is my first avchd project. I have a 28 minute project put together from 5 clips, each one rendered to m2ts. when the clips are joined into the final movie and rendered to Sony avc-AC3 I cannot complete the render. Just 20 to 30 seconds from the end of the render the render stops and a window pops up stating that " Movie studio has stopped working". The result is a defective movie in which the ending is shortened and audio-is out of sync with the video. What please is the fix for this problem? My MS 10 platinum build is 179. I have gone through at least 6 renderings and none have completed!! Each one is about 2 hours in length. A solution to this is graciously accepted..even if the suggestion is to use another program altogether!!

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TOG62 wrote on 12/24/2011, 4:06 PM
Have you applied the 64 bit patch? http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=12&MessageID=720225&lang=DEU
vkmast wrote on 12/24/2011, 5:34 PM
Download and test the trial of MS Platinum 11 latest build 283.
alain38330 wrote on 12/27/2011, 9:31 AM
The 5 clips (m2ts AVCHD presumably) are coming from what?

If they are coming from a previous rendering in VMS10 (model Sony AVCHD), and they are a few minuts long each, then according to my experience, it will never work.

Please confirm the 5 clips origin.
raimonde wrote on 12/27/2011, 3:14 PM
The clips are from my HX9v sony camera captured to my PC using PMB. To make my 29 minute movie I made 5 separate clips each one rendered to m2ts files.Each clip consisted of video, stills and titles. I then put these 5 m2ts clips on the time line of a new project for the finished movie. I should tell you that the audio and video were out of sync on some of these clips but corrected them by muxing using using tsMuxeR _1.10.6. Finally on the 7th attempt to render I got a complete render without error messages but the audio was out of sync by some 40 seconds!!! This was corrected by the same muxing method. Thank you tsMuxeR!! I burned an avchd disc (as a data file) which plays magnificantly on my Sony Blue Ray. Happens to be a movie of my first grandchild's first birthday now "forever" memorialised. There is a definite buggy problem to this software!!!
vkmast wrote on 12/27/2011, 4:30 PM
It is funny, I have an i3, 2 core, 4GB RAM, Win7 64 laptop using VMS HD Platinum 11 b283. The 30+ source files in this project were from a Sony HX5V camera, imported to HD using Sony's PMB. The project's total duration was about 20 mins (some stills, some titles). The .m2ts clips (events) in the timeline were rendered using the Sony AVC Blu-ray 1920x1080-50i template with PCM audio. In the process there were no sync problems and the first attempt to render was successful.
The rendered .iso file was imported to ImgBurn for AVCHD disc burning. The burned disc plays as it should even in the laptop's internal DVD drive using the free Splash Lite software.
Maybe I was just lucky.
alain38330 wrote on 12/28/2011, 1:50 AM
@ raimonde

If you read topic "AVCHD rendering problem with LARGE files" and topic "Sony AVCHD m2ts rendered files question mark" you will understand that as soon as the rendered clips are overpassing a few minuts they become choppy, out of sync and not re-importable in VMS.

I have been working with the Support Service of Sony Creative (France/Europe) and they conclude that there was something wrong with the Sony AVCHD rendered file under VMS10 (at the level of the joining clips).
I transmit them native files from my Sony Camcorder to perform tests.
They were thinking the issue was corrected with VMS11 but apparently it is not.

I never found any explaination about that, except that the "choppy" and "out of sync" problem is a multi-years old and multi-VMS releases one.

The choppy/out of sync defect could be corrected if you just recopy the file with tsMuxer (a free soft) for example. I beleive tsMuxer just extract the audio tracks and the video one and re-mux them in a new (correct) ts or m2ts container.
But I have never been able to re-import and re-render these non-choppy and "in sync" files: VMS10 crashes systematically when re-importing or when re-rendering.

My conclusion (but I need to conclude to satisfy myself) is that we have 2 problems:
1 with the container
1 with the codec processing the "raw" h264 and/or ac3 tracks
I may be totally wrong as this is not really my business.

I have been thru many forums and even many posts of this one and these issues are a little bit poping up everywhere.

PS: By the way, there is not "smart rendering" with Sony AVCHD template in VMS, which means that even if you could re-import rendered files and render again, VMS will de-code and re-encode with a second round of video quality loss (even if you just need to join clips...).
alain38330 wrote on 12/28/2011, 1:56 AM
@vkmast
I will try your template with VMS10 and come back. Thanks

...............I made some tests

I have been looking to the templates offered under Sony AVC (*.mp4; *.m2ts; *.avc) format, and except from the serie of AVCHD models (of which the 1920x1080-50i is the one I am discussing here) the only other serie of format related to Blu-ray is called "Blu-ray video track".

The closest model to the one we are discussing is the 1920x1080-50i, 16MBits/s which can delivered an .m2ts file.

Unfortunately, the basic model in VMS10 does not include audio track.
When I "personalize" this model, I can ask for adding audio track (only choice is ac3), VMS is accepting the request...but the output .m2ts file does not show any audio!
I could render this m2ts file (without audio) and as far as I could see it's not "choppy".

The other place where you get a template for Blu-ray files in VMS10 is when instead on asking for a file on hard disk you ask for burning a Blu-ray disk or for getting an image of the BD...in that case you fall under mpeg2 HD model (no choice).

May be I missed some of your points and then I apologize, but let me ask a question:
Have you tried to read directly the rendered .m2ts file itself (with for example Windows Media Reader or VLC)?
When I say the .m2ts file itself I am referring to the one output from VMS, and NOT a copy through a software which creates folders and files to be burned to a disk (probably with de-muxing and re-muxing).

I need to add that I am not an expert so I may miss big things.

Thanks