The program slows down after a few minutes, you have to wait longer an

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 2/24/2023, 2:05 PM

The program slows down after a few minutes, you have to wait longer and longer for each operation.Each editing operation, mouse movement, cursor positioning takes more and more time. The reaction in the timeline appears after a few seconds instead of immediately. Playback in the preview also slows down after a few minutes, although it is smooth at first.

Has anyone encountered this and solved the problem?

Computer Vegas 20.326, Windows11, Procesor i9 9700, 32GB Ram, Nvidia Geforce 1660 Studio Driver,

Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

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j-v wrote on 2/24/2023, 2:28 PM

Maybe a memory problem. Give here a screenshot of the preference video setting and also one of file I/O

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Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/24/2023, 3:18 PM

When it happens, check Windows Task Manager in case multiple instances of Vegas are causing that behavior. Also check if WindowsUpdates or Anti-Virus Scans are doing it.

wwaag wrote on 2/24/2023, 7:35 PM

I've noticed the same thing but have no solution. It is especially "slow" if you do a "save as" with copy files ticked for archiving. Once the file copying is completed, Vegas opens the newly saved project and does a media replacement. Once completed, it's really, really slow. At that point, the only solution is to close Vegas and relaunch the project.

AKA the HappyOtter at https://tools4vegas.com/. System 1: Intel i7-8700k with HD 630 graphics plus an Nvidia RTX4070 graphics card. System 2: Intel i7-3770k with HD 4000 graphics plus an AMD RX550 graphics card. System 3: Laptop. Dell Inspiron Plus 16. Intel i7-11800H, Intel Graphics. Current cameras include Panasonic FZ2500, GoPro Hero11 and Hero8 Black plus a myriad of smartPhone, pocket cameras, video cameras and film cameras going back to the original Nikon S.

Former user wrote on 2/24/2023, 9:03 PM

@wwaag You have GPU with 4GB Vram, OP 6GB, Is your Vram full, swapping out to shared GPU memory?

Do you feel whatever the problem is , it has nothing to do with Ram and Vram based on your observations?

Dexcon wrote on 2/24/2023, 9:09 PM

I've found that if the 'Create Project Collections' switch is turned off in the Hub Explorer, the sluggishness after saving no longer occurs.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

wwaag wrote on 2/24/2023, 10:07 PM

@Former user

It's probably just 4GB. I recently installed an A380 for testing replacing my old 1050ti. The issue of "slowness" existed with both cards. My suspicion is that it has nothing to do with Vram, but who knows???

@Dexcon

I'm not using or even logged into Vegas Hub. I did turn it off as suggested and will test upon return from a two-week visit to Arizona.

AKA the HappyOtter at https://tools4vegas.com/. System 1: Intel i7-8700k with HD 630 graphics plus an Nvidia RTX4070 graphics card. System 2: Intel i7-3770k with HD 4000 graphics plus an AMD RX550 graphics card. System 3: Laptop. Dell Inspiron Plus 16. Intel i7-11800H, Intel Graphics. Current cameras include Panasonic FZ2500, GoPro Hero11 and Hero8 Black plus a myriad of smartPhone, pocket cameras, video cameras and film cameras going back to the original Nikon S.

Dexcon wrote on 2/24/2023, 11:27 PM

@wwaag

I'm not using or even logged into Vegas Hub. I did turn it off as suggested and will test upon return from a two-week visit to Arizona.

This aspect is not a cloud login-required function as I understand it - the project collection thing is local to your computer.

Have a great trip.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 2/25/2023, 2:19 AM

 

Here are my settings. I wanted to prove that a few days ago everything was fine. The only thing that happened - it's been happening for 3 years and the support can't fix it - is the ptogram freezes, stops responding, and is fully tested when turned on. I have to reset all my preferences, eg annoying F12.

Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

RogerS wrote on 2/25/2023, 3:40 AM

Did resetting your preferences help?

Dynamic ram preview is set higher than I'd recommend for a 32GB system. Can you watch overall ram usage while you are using the program (task manager/performance in Windows) and see if there is a memory leak?

j-v wrote on 2/25/2023, 5:33 AM

@Piotr-Diszer,

Thanks for the screenshots
- About screenshot1: set your Dynamic Ram preview max back to the default setting.
- About screenshot 2 : It looks if there is no QSV (iGPU 630 from your CPU i9 9700) available.
That is a Windows problem and to get it visible for Vegas you have to allow it to show up in the BIOS of your workstation.
- After done this all you have to do is resetting Vegas to its default setting from the start

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 2/25/2023, 6:09 AM

Thank you J-V, and where is this function in the BIOS you mentioned turned on? Have a look at the UEFi BIOS?

https://download.asrock.com/Manual/Z390%20Pro4.pdf

Does the installed Nvidia graphics card not automatically disable the graphics from the processor in the BIOS?

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Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

j-v wrote on 2/25/2023, 6:34 AM

and where is this function in the BIOS you mentioned turned on?

My laptop before the one I have nowa nd the one from my signature had the same problem The former I found myself and the newer one I asked my supplier to do that for me. Unfortunately, my memory is not so good that I still know exactly where to find it in the BIOS.

Does the installed Nvidia graphics card not automatically disable the graphics from the processor in the BIOS?

No, with me the default Vegas installation gives the best results for me and that are

Driverversions you can see on my signature

 

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 2/25/2023, 9:15 AM

Thank you J-V, and where is this function in the BIOS you mentioned turned on? Have a look at the UEFi BIOS?

https://download.asrock.com/Manual/Z390%20Pro4.pdf

Does the installed Nvidia graphics card not automatically disable the graphics from the processor in the BIOS?

The Intel igpu is normally enabled in bios by default but the motherboard & laptop makers construct their menus differently... the manual for your motherboard is what you should consult if you want to do that. A quick test to see if it's enabled in bios is to plug your monitor into the motherboard hdmi port and see if boot up messages are displayed and you can boot into Windows. If you can, the igpu is enabled in bios.

If the igpu is enabled in bios but does not show up in Vegas video or i/o prefs, the Intel graphics driver needs to be installed.

j-v wrote on 2/25/2023, 9:50 AM

I like to look for that on Control Panel/Task Manager/Display Adapters, much easier for me

met vriendelijke groet
Marten

Camera : Pan X900, GoPro Hero7 Hero Black, DJI Osmo Pocket, Samsung Galaxy A8
Desktop :MB Gigabyte Z390M, W11 home version 24H2, i7 9700 4.7Ghz,16 DDR4 GB RAM, Gef. GTX 1660 Ti with driver
566.14 Studiodriver and Intel HD graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Laptop  :Asus ROG Str G712L, W11 home version 23H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 with Studiodriver 576.02 and Intel UHD Graphics 630 with driver 31.0.101.2130
Vegas software: VP 10 to 22 and VMS(pl) 10,12 to 17.
TV      :LG 4K 55EG960V

My slogan is: BE OR BECOME A STEM CELL DONOR!!! (because it saved my life in 2016)

 

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 3/6/2023, 4:24 PM

None of the actions brought results. The program after a few minutes reacts slower and slower until it dies. Task Manager does not show any overshoot or approaching full memory or CPU usage. Will someone help? Has anyone solved this problem?

Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

jimingo-1 wrote on 3/6/2023, 5:54 PM

I've had the same problem since Vegas 18 or 19 but I'm using 20 at the moment and it's still a thing. This issue is present on a wide variety of computers (both AMD and Intel) I've used. I always thought it was a ram thing that actually may be linked to the type of footage being using or maybe even the frame rate it's shot in, but I really don't know. What kind of footage are you editing?

It was so bad for me that I just replaced my computer because editing was taking far longer than it should. It would get to the point where even deleting a single clip from the timeline would take like 15 seconds.

For the past year or two, I've dealt with the problem by breaking my projects in to smaller pieces and then just combining in to one later (also making sure to get rid of all unused media from the project). This helps DRAMATICALLY. The more media you have in a timeline or project, the more this issue is present.

My new build is an i9-13900KS with 64 gigs of ram and an AMD 6900xt (upgraded from AMD 2700x, 32 gigs ram, and AMD 6900xt). With the new build, it's definitely not as noticeable. I can edit for much longer before it starts to become noticeable, and then a restart fixes it. But I feel your pain.

 

Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/7/2023, 7:32 AM

@Piotr-Diszer

Could you post a snapshoot from the windows task manager, when the problem of the slowdown occures?

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Piotr-Diszer wrote on 3/7/2023, 1:19 PM

 

I am sending graphs from the Task Manager. But here are quiet readings, something is going on in the program. The most common way the program saves the backup veg.bak project file is the freeze program

Camera: Sony A7S3 4K - 50p 150 mB/s, Sony A7S 1080 / 50P, Panasonic GH5 4K / 50p, Panasonic GX80 HD / 50p, Gopro 8 4K 50p, Gopro9 4K / 50p, Mavic DJI Mini PRO 4K / 50p. Computer A: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, Intel i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz, Asrock Z390 Pro4, RAM 32GB, SSD NVMe M.2 Kingston 1TB, GTX1660i. Driver Nvidia Studio 531.41. Computer B: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Intel i7 4770, Ram DDR 3 32GB, Asus Z87A, Nvidia Geforce 1660Ti, SSD Adata 1TB.

Musicvid wrote on 3/7/2023, 2:27 PM

A partial solution may be to lower your Dynamic Preview RAM from 50% to around 15%.