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Duncan H wrote on 2/1/2012, 3:44 PM
Peter,

Your post doesn't really provide an extensive review of the issues you are encountering , nor do you list your system specs. Recognise your frustrations, but I am unsure what response you are looking for from this (peer to peer) forum.

Regards,

Duncan
Erni wrote on 2/1/2012, 7:20 PM
Duncan, Peter have only 4 posts...all denostative.

Maybe his hardware are defective.

Erni
Laurence wrote on 2/1/2012, 8:01 PM
That or he's trying to use the new standard text generator (the one that comes up when you insert text, not the New Blue FX one). If I try to use that, I can easily get ten crashes in an hour.
xberk wrote on 2/1/2012, 11:15 PM
Laurence -- I never really tired that new text generator .. I just played with it for 15 min or so and can't get it to crash .. whereas, it seems that New Blue TItler does crash for me .. I stopped using it and went back to ProType . but haven't tried it again since the new update for V11 came out..Once in a while I use the Legacy TItler and have no problems at with it.

Paul B .. PCI Express Video Card: EVGA VCX 10G-P5-3885-KL GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA ,,  Intel Core i9-11900K Desktop Processor ,,  MSI Z590-A PRO Desktop Motherboard LGA-1200 ,, 64GB (2X32GB) XPG GAMMIX D45 DDR4 3200MHz 288-Pin SDRAM PC4-25600 Memory .. Seasonic Power Supply SSR-1000FX Focus Plus 1000W ,, Arctic Liquid Freezer II – 360MM .. Fractal Design case ,, Samsung Solid State Drive MZ-V8P1T0B/AM 980 PRO 1TB PCI Express 4 NVMe M.2 ,, Wundiws 10 .. Vegas Pro 19 Edit

amendegw wrote on 2/2/2012, 5:18 AM
"That or he's trying to use the new standard text generator (the one that comes up when you insert text, not the New Blue FX one). If I try to use that, I can easily get ten crashes in an hour."Hmmm... my experience is that exact opposite. I get crashes with the New Blue titler and none with new Sony Text generator.

I'm not convinced that the problem is with New Blue. It could be the way that Sony interacts with plugins.

...Jerry

btw: all this is on my laptop with no GPU acceleration.

System Model:     Alienware M18 R1
System:           Windows 11 Pro
Processor:        13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13980HX, 2200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s)

Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
Display Adapter:  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (16GB), Nvidia Studio Driver 566.14 Nov 2024
Overclock Off

Display:          1920x1200 240 hertz
Storage (8TB Total):
    OS Drive:       NVMe KIOXIA 4096GB
        Data Drive:     NVMe Samsung SSD 990 PRO 4TB
        Data Drive:     Glyph Blackbox Pro 14TB

Vegas Pro 22 Build 239

Cameras:
Canon R5 Mark II
Canon R3
Sony A9

rmack350 wrote on 2/2/2012, 12:13 PM
It could be the way that Sony interacts with plugins.

Could be. I have a work computer and a home computer, both with 521 installed. The home machine has a newer processor but uses Intel onboard graphics.

Vegas 521 on the home machine (Intel i5-2500, Intel graphics) continues to crash after adjusting any OFX plugin a few times.

Vegas 521 on the work computer (Intel Core2Duo 8400, ATI Radeon HD 2400XT) seems to be stable when adjusting OFX effects.

I've never figured out what causes the crashes but on the offending machine it affects all OFX effects in VP11 and VP10. If I uninstall both and then reinstall VP10 the crashes don't occur.

I've reported it to tech support but their email responses never reach me and most of their web links don't seem to take me to the support pages they're supposed to link to. By the time I remember that I ought to dig deep into the website and find their responses so much time has gone by that SCS has given up on me and marked the issue "solved".

Rob Mack
HowieP wrote on 2/5/2012, 7:16 AM
Have exactly the same problem - unfortunately I am new to Vegas and so far not impressed at all for the vast amount of money I paid.

Pro 11, build 521, running on W7 Ulimate 64 bit, Intel i7 3.07GHz, 16G Ram, NVIDIA GeForce GT 440.

Basically it keeps crashing when adding/changing Video Event FX - not all the time but cannot get it to crash at will - but crashes more times than not.

Got to the point where after every single change I have to save the project to ensure I don't lose anything - absolutley ridiculous.

I really hope Sony come out with a fix soon.
Laurence wrote on 2/5/2012, 8:43 AM
I feel bad for people like HowieP who don't have a previous stable version to go back to when they actually have to get stuff done.
ForumAdmin wrote on 2/5/2012, 10:50 AM
HowieP, what Nvidia drivers are you running?

SCS
paul_w wrote on 2/5/2012, 11:00 AM
I had to roll back to build 425 just to get around the 'Sony Levels posterize effect on fade' issue. And still no word from SCS on its status despite repeated ticket requests to do so. Sorry if this seems like thread hijacking, but i think its relevant. Problem is, rolling back to 425 opens up another can of worms...other issues.

Paul.
cspvideo wrote on 2/5/2012, 11:59 AM
I was having trouble with some crashes with the build prior to 521, but since then I have not. Even with the previous build I found that updating my graphics drivers improved stability a great deal. The only element of the program that still causes crashes for me is selectively pre-rendering. I do not know why, but I am learning that the application is not always the culprit.

I just finished a long project with multiple FX and Transistions. Some are the ones in the program. Some are New Blue plug-ins. None of that caused an issue for me and some of it was previously.

I think it is a tough needle to thread for software desgners. Updates to the operating system are not in their control. Updates to drivers are not in their control. Both can impact software performance in unexpected and harmful ways.

Of course, newer, more robust hardware also seems to help. And, yes. That gets to be expensive.

ForumAdmin wrote on 2/5/2012, 1:36 PM
I had to roll back to build 425 just to get around the 'Sony Levels posterize effect on fade' issue.

paul_w, your other option would be to roll back your Nvidia drivers. Our testing indicates that this problem is only present with Nvidia beta driver version 290.36, and only on a select few cards.

SCS
paul_w wrote on 2/5/2012, 1:46 PM
Great. I will certainly try that right now and report back. Card is standard GTX570 - nothing out of the ordinary.

fingers crossed.

Paul.
Laurence wrote on 2/5/2012, 1:57 PM
On my system, 521 is stable except for the new text generator which will crash every few minutes (and gets progressively worse once it starts crashing until it will only last until I touch some parameter in the generator). If I call up the old text generator things are fine, so that's what I'm doing.
paul_w wrote on 2/5/2012, 2:03 PM
No, not working.
Just checked with 285.79 driver and Vegas 11 build 521. Same issue.

Edit: But thank you for communicating this info. i am open to any other sugestions.

Paul.
paul_w wrote on 2/5/2012, 3:39 PM
And going back further to 280.26 does not work either.
I think its safe to say this is not a driver related issue.

Paul.
paul_w wrote on 2/5/2012, 4:49 PM
Oh well, back to 425 for me :(

Peter (OP) sorry for the hijack - i am leaving. Good luck with your issues.

Paul.
HowieP wrote on 2/6/2012, 3:42 AM
Just checked driver version for GT440 - version 285.62

According to the Nvidia control app, this is the latest version.
vkmast wrote on 2/6/2012, 3:55 AM
The latest version, if you are not counting the beta drivers.

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Magnus Helander wrote on 2/6/2012, 5:20 AM
I've had a large number of problems with my 64bit system, after testing a number of configurations I have a stable 64-bit system. My config is...

- Vegas 64 bit build 521
- nVidia 290.36 for GTX 580
- Win7 pro SP1 x64
- No 32 bit vegas installed in parallel
- Only the 64bit ProType titler (deselect 32 bit when installing)

Good luck..

Guy S. wrote on 2/6/2012, 1:07 PM
Lots of crashes for me, too - some random, some repeatable (V11-64, build 521).

Media - sometimes merely clicking on a piece of media in the Explorer tab will cause Vegas to crash. Reopen and the same media causes no issues at all.

Effects - Color curves + HSL used to crash repeatably but now seems OK

Standard titler is fairly stable; New Blue titler renders unusably jaggy text (display set to Best Full). Pro type is less user-friendly than before (if that's even possible) and the documentation is still quite poor, but the stability is about the same (occasional crashes but not a show-stopper) and the text looks great. I like having Pro Type text effect presets available in the basic (and much improved!) text generator.
MonteMedia wrote on 2/8/2012, 12:48 PM
I'm having constant, time consuming, annoying crashes of Sony Vegas Pro 11 64-bit (build 521).

Adding or removing filters (from anywhere on the timeline), dragging a NewBlue title to the timeline, or Vegas just gets tired or mixed up and faints.

I save my work as often as I think of it. But, you know how workflow goes. You get into it and forget to save just before you do something [apparently] risky.

I'm very annoyed.

PC details:
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Intel Core Duo E6700 (OC'd to 3.19GHz)
ASUS P5N-E SLI motherboard
8GB of PC2-8500 (DDR2 @ 1066MHz)
ASUS GeForce GTX550 Ti OC [1GB of onboard DDR5]
3 x 1TB WD Caviar Black 7200 rpm hard drives [#1 = Programs and Win7 (64-bit), #2 = Project Files, #3 = Scratch Disk
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No other system or program crashes - smooth Premiere Pro use, Photoshop runs fast - no PC problems whatsoever - except SONY VEGAS PRO 11 (BUILD 521).
Diamond12a wrote on 2/12/2012, 3:39 PM
I too am experiencing issues in three areas as of build 521 :

1. Newblue titler crashing, covered here:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=800862

2. Pan/Crop rotation issues with GPU acceleration turned on. (animation goes erratic with pan cop rotation objects only with gpu accel. turned on, happens on the timeline and in render)

3. Odd issues with the new stabalizer. I have witnessed when saving multiple versions of a project with clips that use the stabilize plugin, the plugin will often "stack" up the stabalize plugin, almost as if I had copied and pasted a second copy of the stabilize plugin into the same clip. This occurs when using the same source video files and applying the plugin to a clip. Even though they are saved under different names, they all get affected. By having the "stacked" plugins, the clip gets jumpy and erratic. I have also seen where the stacking does not occur, but in another save of a file with the same source video clips, the stabilize gets "jidders". The solution I can use to fix is to remove all instances of the plugin on the clip, and reapply. This has to be done on each copy of the file every time I want to re-render, a major pain. I hope my description if this can be understood.

I have submitted #2 and #3 to Sony tech support. 64 bit Vegas 11 with latest Nvidia drivers.
david-ruby wrote on 2/13/2012, 5:44 PM
No this happens with other nvidia drivers as well on this end. Been there and gave up trying to solve it.