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Dexcon wrote on 8/10/2019, 9:19 AM

Yes ... from the menu - Help/Contents and Index

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vkmast wrote on 8/10/2019, 9:32 AM

You can download the .pdf manual e.g. from your Magix Account if you have registered your product. Log in and go to My products > Vegas Pro 17. There click Downloads > Instructions.

j-v wrote on 8/10/2019, 10:18 AM

I registered my trial and nowhere I can find a manual.

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TOG62 wrote on 8/10/2019, 10:20 AM

Thanks Dexcon and vkmast. I was hoping that the manual would have more detail than the help file. I'm slightly surprised that it's necessary to buy the product to get the manual. My problem is that I am editing a DV-AVI file created by digitising some very old 8mm film. Some sections are quite shaky but stabilising them results in an annoying vertical 'jitter'. That is a rapid vertical movement of small amplitude. I have tried various settings in Expert Mode but do not know what a number of the settings mean. I could not find them in Help. There is no point in purchasing Vegas Pro 17 unless it overcomes this issue as VP 15 is otherwise quite adequate for my limited needs.

xberk wrote on 8/10/2019, 10:33 AM

Additional controls of the Expert mode

In Expert mode you get additional controls to fine tune the analysis accuracy with internal parameters of the analysis algorithm. When you switch between the Accurate and Fast method now you see that these methods are in fact just preset combinations of these parameters and thus many more combinations are possible to find the best working one for your specific footage.

Smoothing Parameters animation: In the Expert mode there are further control over smoothing. Animate buttons for each of the different components of detected motion enable you to activate or de-activate each motion component separately over time to even better separate intended from unintended motion.

Visualization: Click Show Points to see points of interests (feature points) and its tracking vector over the next frames. The track length of the vector indicates the number of frames a feature point could be tracked though the video. To hide points with a shorter track length increase the Minimum track length value, so you see only points with a longer track length that are more likely the correctly tracked ones.

The feature point visualization has some restrictions:

It works only, when Video Stabilization is applied as an Event FX

The point data are not stored in the project file, so the visualization is only available after the analysis until the end of the session. If you want to see it later from a saved project, you have to clear and re-analyze the motion data.

There's no real-time update of the point visualization while video playback. but you can seek on the timeline to see the points in a different part of the video.

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TOG62 wrote on 8/10/2019, 10:51 AM

Wow! thanks for that detailed information, xberk. I'll experiment now that I've a much better understanding of what I'm doing.

AVsupport wrote on 8/15/2019, 12:45 AM

changed to nvidia creator drivers and seemingly have lost the fonts to display the help file pdf text..WTF??

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Greg-Kintz wrote on 8/16/2019, 9:49 PM

Just to confirm: No option to see the manual then without purchasing, or downloading the trial version?

TOG62 wrote on 8/17/2019, 1:46 AM

You don't get the manual unless you purchase the product. Now that I have done so I am disappointed. The manual gives very little information on the issue I was experiencing with stabilization. For example it does not even mention the variables controlling the number of grids - whatever they are. So far, I have not managed to produce a result that is any better that the legacy stabilizer.

zdogg wrote on 8/17/2019, 11:26 AM

Thanks Dexcon and vkmast. I was hoping that the manual would have more detail than the help file. I'm slightly surprised that it's necessary to buy the product to get the manual. My problem is that I am editing a DV-AVI file created by digitising some very old 8mm film. Some sections are quite shaky but stabilising them results in an annoying vertical 'jitter'. That is a rapid vertical movement of small amplitude. I have tried various settings in Expert Mode but do not know what a number of the settings mean. I could not find them in Help. There is no point in purchasing Vegas Pro 17 unless it overcomes this issue as VP 15 is otherwise quite adequate for my limited needs.

 

There is no point in purchasing Vegas Pro 17 unless it overcomes this issue as VP 15 is otherwise quite adequate for my limited needs.

Sometimes you might need to process it more than once.

 

TOG62 wrote on 8/18/2019, 12:17 AM

Thanks for your comment zdogg. Do you mean having multiple instances of Stabilize in the effect chain or render the stabilized clip and then apply the effect again - or would either do?

zdogg wrote on 8/18/2019, 3:25 PM

I would just do it twice, because of the analysis stage, pre processing.