Voukoder: Why Do You Use It?

j.razz wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:49 PM

I saw in another thread the mention of Voukoder. I haven't heard of it and went to their site to see what it was. Honestly, I didn't glean much in the way of how it is beneficial. How do you, those of you who use it, use it, and why not just use the render engine in Vegas?

 

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Musicvid wrote on 8/10/2022, 7:53 PM

It's main advantage is the ability to use the x264 / x265 as well as some ProRes encoders not included in Vegas.

RogerS wrote on 8/10/2022, 8:06 PM

X264 encodes can be quite pristine and reasonably compact. NVENC encodes are a bit (10%) faster than Vegas.

j.razz wrote on 8/10/2022, 9:12 PM

I guess I need to do some research on the encoding offered above and beyond Vegas. I personally encode mostly for 4k and 1080 YouTube delivery, as that is what my clients are looking for (social media likes and views). Those of you who use Voukoder, given YouTube recompressed video, would you say it would be beneficial for my typical use-case? I usually use the NVENC render template that I adjust for best quality. I also typically only shoot for final edits under 3 minutes in length and a lot of times 59 or 30 seconds.

Thanks for responding!

Former user wrote on 8/10/2022, 9:29 PM

@j.razz given 3minute maximum export encodes, you may as well use x264 if you want highest quality, with your 5900HS should not take that long even at 4K, but test for yourself, maybe you would choose to do 1080p in x264 as well as short 4K encodes, but for longer encodes use Nvenc via voukoder

3POINT wrote on 8/11/2022, 2:44 AM

Voukoder = Superb Quality (especially and visible when downscaling 4k to 1080p) at extreme low file sizes and ease of use.

bitman wrote on 8/11/2022, 3:25 AM

If I can remember (it has been a while), it also allows you to render audio AC3 Pro Stereo and 5.1 Surround in one go which is impossible to do in Vegas (using the default Vegas coders you had to do it in 3 steps: (1) render audio 5.1, (2) render video and then (3) mux them together using a third party app), or render it all using external apps such as Happy Otter Scripts...

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dape wrote on 8/11/2022, 5:01 AM

X264 encodes can be quite pristine and reasonably compact. NVENC encodes are a bit (10%) faster than Vegas.

And better quality since july-august voukoder update.

Musicvid wrote on 8/11/2022, 9:54 AM

I guess I need to do some research on the encoding offered above and beyond Vegas. I personally encode mostly for 4k and 1080 YouTube delivery, as that is what my clients are looking for (social media likes and views). Those of you who use Voukoder, given YouTube recompressed video, would you say it would be beneficial for my typical use-case? I usually use the NVENC render template that I adjust for best quality. I also typically only shoot for final edits under 3 minutes in length and a lot of times 59 or 30 seconds.

Thanks for responding!

The limiting quality factor is Youtube's recompression, not the encoder used for the upload. That said, x264 maintains a smaller footprint at a given quality and encoding time, so it may upload faster.

NVENC is inherently larger than x264 for comparable quality.

Grazie wrote on 8/11/2022, 11:35 PM

@bitman - Oh yes! Plus I use it for my HOS KwikPreview tool. Stunningly fast and looks great.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/12/2022, 12:33 PM

The limiting quality factor is Youtube's recompression, not the encoder used for the upload. That said, x264 maintains a smaller footprint at a given quality and encoding time, so it may upload faster.

I've been getting the smallest 4k video file sizes for given quality with h.265 renders uploaded to YouTube. Though it seems to take them an hour or two before it switches internally from avc to vp9 which displays better. Right clicking and selecting "stats for nerds" looks like this:

 

Reyfox wrote on 8/12/2022, 1:33 PM

For those that are interested in Voukoder but were confused how to set it up, Josh (Scrapyard Films) did an overview of it including installation. The video is for VP20, but he shows you have to copy/paste from 18/19 to VP20.

You can watch the video

RogerS wrote on 8/13/2022, 3:34 AM

Actually, no need to copy/paste. There is a new installer out now.

Grazie wrote on 8/13/2022, 5:16 AM

I installed Vou 10.2.149 and don't remember having to do all those actions. I just downloaded and installed - Grazie-Proof!

RogerS wrote on 8/13/2022, 7:24 AM

Pretty sure you did do those actions last year before the installer was updated.

It's currently on 11.3 as well and has a new connector for VP 20.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 8/13/2022, 7:45 AM

Because it's truly the best Rendering Encoder on the market right now (Pristine quality+Small file size), plus it integrates beautifully with Vegas where there's no need to fiddle with much settings.

Grazie wrote on 8/13/2022, 8:52 AM

Because it's truly the best Rendering Encoder on the market right now (Pristine quality+Small file size), plus it integrates beautifully with Vegas where there's no need to fiddle with much settings.

@Steve_Rhoden - Yes.