VP18 No more Intel QSV

vaddd wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:23 AM

Hi there,

how's it going guys?

I just upgraded to VP18 and I've instantly noticed a few changes...in the File I/O there's no Intel QSV hardware decoder anymore. Well, actually there's nothing, not even the AMD or NVIDIA choices.

Do you know why this happened? Is there a way to enable them (especiallly the Intel QSV)?

Thank you

VP17:

VP18:

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fr0sty wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:24 AM

It looks like VEGAS may not be detecting your GPU. It's working for me. Update your driver, that may help.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Radeon VII

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

vaddd wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:25 AM

I'm trying it now, thanks ;)

vaddd wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:29 AM

Ok I tried, there's no new driver for my card (AMD R9 280x).

What I did was untick the "Enable legacy" options, and now I have the AMD hardware decoder option.

But not the Intel QSV.

On the same computer, with VP17 it shows everything.

fr0sty wrote on 8/5/2020, 9:50 AM

Update the intel drivers as well.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Radeon VII

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

vaddd wrote on 8/5/2020, 10:28 AM

Nothing, the option is not there. I don't understand what changed.

Also, I don't know if it is related to this but:

- the same project runs faster and smoother on VP17;

- in VP18 there's a weird red line on the left of the preview screen, every time I hit play;

- the transitions preview is really slow and now you can't scroll the list with the arrow keys.

Maybe I'll ask for a refund...it's supposed to be an UPgrade... :(

fr0sty wrote on 8/5/2020, 10:43 AM

The problem is related to your system, not VEGAS. You are having GPU driver issues (red in the preview screen is an indication of this) with your intel driver or the hardware itself.

I've got video proof that VEGAS 18 is considerably faster than 17 both at rendering and loading projects (I haven't yet done tests on timeline playback, I will get to that later today).

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Radeon VII

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

vaddd wrote on 8/5/2020, 10:52 AM

I have both versions installed on the same computer (with the same drivers...) and I'm testing back and forth.

It's CLEARLY a problem with VP18...

michael-harrison wrote on 8/5/2020, 11:45 AM

I'm left wondering why you *ever* had a choice for QSV, I'd have thought you would need an intel gpu for that.

That may be part of the new bug. They may be expecting the gpu to be present even if the decoder hardware doesn't require it.

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BaseBoard Product        ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING

Installed Physical Memory (RAM)        32.0 GB

Adapter Description        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660

Driver Version        Studio <the latest stable>

Resolution        1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz

Video Memory 6G GDDR5

 

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16G ram

Intel HD 630 gpu

Nvidia GTX 1050 gpu

D7K wrote on 8/5/2020, 12:43 PM

When I go to video is shows QSV auto selected at the bottom of the box you show, my GPU selection is AMD480RX. Both work when I render as seen in task manger. Got to be something in your system. i7700/4200 hz, 32 gig, AMD 480RS 8 Gig, MSI motherboard, windows 10 PRO.

Musicvid wrote on 8/5/2020, 1:04 PM

in the File I/O there's no Intel QSV hardware decoder anymore. 

You're lucky. Tested it once, and never again.

RogerS wrote on 8/5/2020, 10:10 PM

@vaddd What is your CPU? It may have Intel QSV. However, it if's more than 5 years old it may not be supported by Vegas any longer. Please take a look at device manager and see what it says for graphics adapters. Then in Vegas 18 under help, click check for driver updates and update the graphics driver if you aren't on the latest.

I do recommend Intel QSV decoding- according to Magix it's compatible with decoding the most types of media. While performance is less than my NVIDIA decoder, Intel has been rock solid (I stupidly changed it from the default of Intel using VP 17 and was plagued with freezes until NVIDIA fixed its drivers this spring).

VEGASHeman wrote on 8/6/2020, 7:35 AM

@vaddd: We have added a new feature to detect the available/usable hardware decoders in VP18. This was not the case for VP17, where we listed all decoders VEGAS supported, regardless of whether those were available on the installed PC. It also meant that you could select a decoder, but not be sure whether it was actually being used (VEGAS would default to a software decoder if it could not find the selected hardware decoder). Do note that this feature works in conjunction with so4compoundplug, so enabling the legacy AVC decoder will not show these (as the older compoundplug does not use any kind of hardware decoding).

The fact that you can see AMD UVD when the legacy AVC decoder is unchecked indicates that VP18 is only able to detect the AMD GPU, and not the Intel integrated GPU (I assume you do have a Intel CPU with QSV support). Please check if your Intel drivers are up to date by going to "Heko" -> "Check for Driver Updates". Because of the constant updates which occur with Windows 10, and the GPU drivers themselves, we do need upto date drivers to take advantage of hardware decoding.

Howard-Vigorita wrote on 8/6/2020, 10:10 PM

@vaddd Also suggest you get GPU-Z from TechPowerUp. It'll tell you what gpu and igpu hardware is present along with relevant driver versions and api's enabled.

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