Have you tried massively increasing the "Maximum bit rate (bps)"? There's really no reason to have it so close in value to the Average bit-rate if you're using Variable.

For 1080p60 youtube uploads I do I use:

Maximum: 50,000,000

Average: 28,000,000

I also have an NVIDIA card so I use NV Encoder instead of Mainconcept (bottom part of your screenshot) w/ Preset High Quality, RC Mode: VBR High Quality.

If you haven't tried bumping up the Max/Average bitrates I'd definitely try that first.

Oh and that message from youtube about streamable formats always comes up for me too......It won't affect quality - it would only allow youtube to start encoding the video while the upload was still in progress. These days the processing time is pretty quick anyway.

Any special reason to use 60p, when 24p would be plenty but would not be so hard on the resources, including the Internet connection?

For over a century, 24p has been a perfectly good frame rate used by professional filmmakers. 60 fps requires 2.5 times as much digital data but gives you nothing in return, well nothing but the problems you are experiencing. Plurality without necessity violates the law of parsimony, a.k.a. Occam’s razor.

Have you tried massively increasing the "Maximum bit rate (bps)"? There's really no reason to have it so close in value to the Average bit-rate if you're using Variable.

For 1080p60 youtube uploads I do I use:

Maximum: 50,000,000

Average: 28,000,000

I also have an NVIDIA card so I use NV Encoder instead of Mainconcept (bottom part of your screenshot) w/ Preset High Quality, RC Mode: VBR High Quality.

If you haven't tried bumping up the Max/Average bitrates I'd definitely try that first.

Oh and that message from youtube about streamable formats always comes up for me too......It won't affect quality - it would only allow youtube to start encoding the video while the upload was still in progress. These days the processing time is pretty quick anyway.

 

 

 

Ok I will try this first then. Also I read that I should enable two pass, but that option is blocked out for me.

Lots of motion + lots of detail = lots of bits. Youtube is likely not going to give you the bit rate you require for the motion and detail that you want.

And this seems reasonable, but I find it odd that other youtubers who do the same game and are in the same area within that game have better quality.

One last point: Youtube usually will convert a video first to AVC and make it live on your channel. If the video is active they'll then process another encode (in the background) in VP9 and that will replace the AVC version hours to a few days later.

To see which codec Youtube has encored your video with: right click on the image, pick "Stats for nerds", and look at the "Codec" line. The one above is in AVC. VP9 is generally thought of as slightly better quality so if you see your video is in AVC there's a chance it may get a VP9 "upgrade" w/in the next few days.

Any special reason to use 60p, when 24p would be plenty but would not be so hard on the resources, including the Internet connection?

For over a century, 24p has been a perfectly good frame rate used by professional filmmakers. 60 fps requires 2.5 times as much digital data but gives you nothing in return, well nothing but the problems you are experiencing. Plurality without necessity violates the law of parsimony, a.k.a. Occam’s razor.

Gameplay looks neater in 60 fps, but if it is true that it looks way better in 30 fps (quality wise) than I might try that out as well. I also thought about this.

One last point: Youtube usually will convert a video first to AVC and make it live on your channel. If the video is active they'll then process another encode (in the background) in VP9 and that will replace the AVC version hour to a few days later.

To see which codec Youtube has used to encore your video right click on the image, pick "Stats for nerds", and look at the "Codec" line. VP9 is generally thought of as better quality so if you see your video is in AVC there's a chance it may get a VP9 "upgrade" w/in the next few days.

Mhm, even videos posted two weeks ago still have the AVC codec according to those statistics.

Have you tried massively increasing the "Maximum bit rate (bps)"? There's really no reason to have it so close in value to the Average bit-rate if you're using Variable.

For 1080p60 youtube uploads I do I use:

Maximum: 50,000,000

Average: 28,000,000

I also have an NVIDIA card so I use NV Encoder instead of Mainconcept (bottom part of your screenshot) w/ Preset High Quality, RC Mode: VBR High Quality.

If you haven't tried bumping up the Max/Average bitrates I'd definitely try that first.

Oh and that message from youtube about streamable formats always comes up for me too......It won't affect quality - it would only allow youtube to start encoding the video while the upload was still in progress. These days the processing time is pretty quick anyway.

 

 

 

Sadly didn't work. Took a part of a newer video (private one) which was all pixelated in the original and cut that bit out and rendered with the settings you proposed but still the same blocky mess.

One last point: Youtube usually will convert a video first to AVC and make it live on your channel. If the video is active they'll then process another encode (in the background) in VP9 and that will replace the AVC version hour to a few days later.

To see which codec Youtube has used to encore your video right click on the image, pick "Stats for nerds", and look at the "Codec" line. VP9 is generally thought of as better quality so if you see your video is in AVC there's a chance it may get a VP9 "upgrade" w/in the next few days.

Mhm, even videos posted two weeks ago still have the AVC codec according to those statistics.

Yea I just looked through yours trying to find a VP9 one and noticed that.

It's probably because your channel is younger than 6months. Google/youtube never talks about how/why they do things but I think originally VP9 was rolled out to very popular channels first and then to other channels based on # of subscribers/views/etc. My guess is you haven't gotten VP9s because your channel is still under 6month old. It's not a HUGE difference so I don't think AVC is causing this issue here.

VP9 takes google a lot more time (and power) to encode to but it saves them a lot on playback. So they try to reserve it for active channels/videos. Once you reach 6month you'll probably see new uploads get the VP9. I don't knoww 100% though you could try asking on the youtube forum or better yet their Reddit (which some support guys lurk on): https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube

Edit:

You could also post this same question on that youtube Reddit forum and they may have suggestions too. Lots of youtubers use Vegas and also may know tricks specific to gaming videos and youtube.

Lastly:

If your game video is recorded in 60fps encode to 60fps. 24fps is good for film but video games will look like crap. Just my .02.

One last point: Youtube usually will convert a video first to AVC and make it live on your channel. If the video is active they'll then process another encode (in the background) in VP9 and that will replace the AVC version hour to a few days later.

To see which codec Youtube has used to encore your video right click on the image, pick "Stats for nerds", and look at the "Codec" line. VP9 is generally thought of as better quality so if you see your video is in AVC there's a chance it may get a VP9 "upgrade" w/in the next few days.

Mhm, even videos posted two weeks ago still have the AVC codec according to those statistics.

Yea I just looked through yours trying to find a VP9 one and noticed that.

 

It's probably because your channel is younger than 6months. Google/youtube never talks about how/why they do things but I think originally VP9 was rolled out to very popular channels first and then it # of subscribers/etc. I'd bet it's because your channel is still under 6month old.

 

VP9 takes google a lot more time (and power) to encode to but it saves them a lot on playback. So they try to reserve it for active channels/videos. Once you reach 6month you'll probably see new uploads get the VP9. I don't knoww 100% though you could try asking on the youtube forum or better yet their Reddit (which some support guys lurk on): https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube

Ahh okay will ask there, thank you so much for your help though.

For over a century, 24p has been a perfectly good frame rate used by professional filmmakers.

@Red Prince 24fps came as a compromise, balancing what was acceptable vs cost. With digital film/video that is only partially valid. Higher frame rates will always look better when motion is involved, nobody would want to play a video game at 24fps.

Shadowplay is notorious for spotty results in Vegas.

Have you tried the recommended settings for Vegas in OBS?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

The latter part of this comment describes one way I have been able to trigger VP9 encodes on my videos.

Shadowplay is notorious for spotty results in Vegas.

Have you tried the recommended settings for Vegas in OBS?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

 

I tried OBS but somehow the footage is skipping frames all the time.

The latter part of this comment describes one way I have been able to trigger VP9 encodes on my videos.

Ahh I will try this as well, but 'enmhancements' is no longer in the menu, is it the editor instead?

EDIT: Apparently youtube deleted the enhancement tab? And the edito does not allow to 'save' if nothing has been added.

in the bottom left hand corner there is an option called classic editor, you click on that. Many of the classic editor options are gone, but you can still do what is claimed that will create vp9

at 1080p YT should be creating 4 files, WebM(VP9,vorbis), WebM(VP9,opus), MKV(VP9,aac) & MP4(H.264,aac) ,although because you're using 60p, you prob should have a 30p version of each as well

Shadowplay is notorious for spotty results in Vegas.

Have you tried the recommended settings for Vegas in OBS?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

 

I tried OBS but somehow the footage is skipping frames all the time.

Well, you may not be able to overcome your issue directly if you continue to use Shadowplay, which i understand is VFR only?

If our Lead Moderators can get get OBS working, I bet you can, too.

Shadowplay is notorious for spotty results in Vegas.

Have you tried the recommended settings for Vegas in OBS?

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-what-obs-studio-settings-work-well-with-vegas-pro--109925/

 

I tried OBS but somehow the footage is skipping frames all the time.

Well, you may not be able to overcome your issue directly if you continue to use Shadowplay, which i understand is VFR only?

If our Lead Moderators can get get OBS working, I bet you can, too.

 

Guess I'll be messing with obs in the future then, first result when following some tutorials on youtube made the quality even worse than with shadowplay haha

Hi All,

I have exactly same issue. the video quality is very good after rendering. but when its uploaded to youtube the quality of video became bad.. the video became pixelated in some scene.

do you have fixed this issue? need advice.. Thanks

The only way solution i have is re-render the video with vidcoder/hanbrake.. so after i render with vegas pro and then i re-render/convert with vidcoder/handbrake and then upload to youtube. then the result is.. the video quality became good quality.

So.. it must be something bug in vegas pro causing compatibility issue with youtube

Would you happen to still have both videos up on youtube and mind linking them? That sounds very interesting.

Yeah I'm interested in that too.

Have you tried massively increasing the "Maximum bit rate (bps)"? There's really no reason to have it so close in value to the Average bit-rate if you're using Variable.

For 1080p60 youtube uploads I do I use:

Maximum: 50,000,000

Average: 28,000,000

Yes, there is a reason. Keeping ABR right up there in the "zone" with Max has the indirect, and beneficial effect of cushioning minimum bitrate with most encoders, keeping it from dipping too low, and effectively keeping shadow blocking and transition garbage to a minimum. Very few encoders these days have the luxury of minimum bitrate controls, so we do it indirectly.

As we've explained twice this week, raising peak or average bitrates to hyperoptimal levels for Youtube upload doesn't work. Watch for a new tutorial coming soon to a theater near you!