VEGAS Pro 21 Build 300 General Thread

VEGAS_CommunityManager schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 14:17 Uhr

Hello everyone,

The VEGAS Team is excited to announce the release of VEGAS Pro 21, build 300. Please use this thread to post general comments on this update. For details on VEGAS Pro 21, please read this post in the News forum.

If you are having any issues using the update or have specific questions, please create a new thread.

Thank you,

The VEGAS Creative Software Team

Kommentare

bitman schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 14:35 Uhr

Installation went smoothly, the new splash screen is an improvement!

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (21 - build 315), VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 16 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2024, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 17, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 23H2 (November 2023)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K), Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

bitman schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 14:47 Uhr

For the release itself, it is early days, the list of bug fixes is impressive, improving performance and stability is paramount and always will supersede new features in my book, keep up the good work!

Not sure what to think of the new AI smart mask 2.0, I dabbled a bit with it (3 persons with their back to me climbing a steep hill in the woods), but that gave very mixed results (and very slow). I suppose we are not there yet for some type of footage...

Zuletzt geändert von bitman am 08.04.2024, 14:59, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (21 - build 315), VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 16 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2024, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 17, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 23H2 (November 2023)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K), Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

bitman schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 14:57 Uhr

I am also curious which variant of the hub features for perpetual users will be made available with regard to the different subscription variants of 365 (e.g. will they have the possibility to download curated 4K contend or only HD contend etc...) or be subject to other restrictions (maximum TTS words etc.) ...

With the hub features now added to perpetual users, I fail to see the added benefit of subscription, or am I missing something?

Zuletzt geändert von bitman am 08.04.2024, 15:03, insgesamt 2-mal geändert.

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 (21 - build 315), VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 16 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2024, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 17, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner, DXO, Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 23H2 (November 2023)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K), Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15s
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

vkmast schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 15:04 Uhr

Please note from the OP: "If you are having any issues using the update or have specific questions, please create a new thread. Thank you"

Dexcon schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 15:07 Uhr

From the Update 3 launch announcement in the News topic:

VEGAS Hub features for perpetual users 

VEGAS Hub features are no longer exclusive to subscription customers. Perpetual users can now enjoy the benefits of Text to Speech and Speech to Text, VEGAS Content downloads, Media Share, and so on.

So its definitely not clear what are the limitations if any.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

pierre-k schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 15:10 Uhr

The first and second issues with the Waves plugin are still not resolved.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/bug-three-problems-with-waves-plugins-only-in-vp20--140944/

andyrpsmith schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:00 Uhr

Just one little thing I noticed is in panning shots the preview will show some slight tearing, this remains even with wait for vertical sync enabled in preview properties. Same when CPU 770 GPU is used or RTX 4080 super.

Same if setting Vsync is set on in NVIDIA panel option for Vegas specified in program setting. Also same with latest driver 552.12. (Also V21 did not like me updating the video driver while still open).

It is not mxcompoundplug as So4compoundplug does the same.

Not present in V20.

Also does it with GPU acceleration off.

Does not do it when playing media from media tab only on timeline.

Media Sony 4K XAVCS

Zuletzt geändert von andyrpsmith am 08.04.2024, 16:02, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.

(Intel 3rd gen i5@4.1GHz, 32GB RAM, SSD, 1080Ti GPU, Windows 10) Not now used with Vegas.

13th gen i913900K - water cooled, 96GB RAM, 4TB M2 drive, 4TB games SSD, 2TB video SSD, GPU RTX 4080 Super, Windows 11 pro

Sassylola schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:20 Uhr

I cannot register my Vegas online. I am posting this on the same PC that Vegas is installed in. So I have a active internet connection.

My System Home Built

Intel 13900K Latest Intel Chipset. Latest Intel Management Engine Installed. NO OC (PL 1 Set to 280W PL 2 set to 280W)

Arctic Liquid Freezer ll 360mm AIO

Gigabyte Aero G Z790 MB Latest BIOS

ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 4090 AMP Extreme AIRO Latest Nvidea Studio Drivers Installed. With GPU OC results were about the same as GPU set to default settings. I have kept GPU at default settings

64 GB G Skill DDR 5 6000mhz Ram 2X32

Corsair 1000W RMx Power Supply

SK Hynix P41 NVMe 1TB Operating Drive. ( Boot Drive )

WD 2TB SN 850X SSD 1st Render Drive NVMe

SK Hynix P 41 2 TB NVMe Storage Drive

2 TB Sk Hynix P 41 SSD 2nd Render Drive For final renders NVMe

Win 11 Pro 23H2

Fractal Design R6 Case

Samsung - M7 Series 43" Smart Tizen 4K UHD Monitor

Vegas Post 365 21 Ver 208

Sound Blaster 5.1 Audigyfx Sound Card

SSK USB C External NVMe drive Enclosure with 500GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus for backups.

PROBOI 10G Hard drive Enclosure. USB C. 4 4TB Spinning Drives for Backups.

 

 

piotr-b schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:21 Uhr

Same issue as Sassylola.

studiolynga schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:22 Uhr

I also have the same problem!

RogerS schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:26 Uhr

I did some testing with the new build of 21 and am impressed overall. NVDEC is finally performing well (better than QSV in most cases) and HEVC I could never edit before is working well.

It also looks like the NVENC still image render bug is fixed.

I noticed a few issues that need to be worked around.

Problem 1: Automatic levels detection (full vs limited range) doesn't work with some media and MXCompound (the new decoder) resulting in clipped full range files, including Sony Slog 2 and 3, full range Canon MOV h264, GoPro Hero11 10bit HEVC, DJI HEVC, and others.

See what your camera shoots here:
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/survey-what-min-max-levels-does-your-cam-shoot--84677/

Workaround: manually tell VEGAS if it is full range by right clicking the media and change the color range from undefined to full. Or check "enable legacy AVC decoding" in preferences file io.

Problem 2: Degraded performance of HEVC 10-bit 4:2:2
If you have an Intel iGPU which does decoding of 10-bit 422 HEVC media, you may have experience worse performance if you use a dedicated non-Intel GPU for decoding.

Workaround: Change the default decoder in preferences, file io to Intel QSV (if you have another GPU that will be the default in 21.300). However this may negatively affect decoding of other media, especially AVC.

To return performance to how it was in 21.208, enable legacy AVC and experimental HEVC in preferences, file io to return to so4compoundand AND enable the Intel iGPU under hardware decoder to use (also in file io).
Hopefully in the future it will be possible to benefit from the better dedicated GPU decoding in VP 21.300 and also benefit from Intel iGPUs for media that they work best with. Right now there is a tradeoff.

Problem 3: Unexpected [edit] luminance shifts in ACES 32-bit full mode
Workaround: Change the ACES color space to ACESCC from default in project properties. Be sure to change the media color range to full range if it is full (many log files, etc.) or it still won't work correctly. Also you still need to set the proper media color space manually for most media. You still may get images with unexpectedly high or low contrast- restarting VEGAS or going between 8-bit full and 32-bit full mode might restore a normal view.

Problem 4: Mono audio plays back at 1/2 speed
Workaround: rewrap or transcode mono audio to wav or other formats that are not opened by mxcompound.

Or enable legacy AVC in preferences/ file io if the audio is part of an AVC video file to use the old so4compound decoder.

[added] Problem 5: MXF formats don't play back properly with glitched frames or out of sync audio.
Workaround:
enable legacy AVC and experimental HEVC in preferences, file io to return to so4compound (depending on whether what is in the MXF is AVC or HEVC).

Alternatively rewrap the media to a different container with a program like ShutterEncoder.

If you have to go back to build 208, uninstall 300 first with add/remove programs.

[added] Problem 6: Poor playback and render performance with color grading panel
Workaround: Try using other Fx instead.

Zuletzt geändert von RogerS am 14.04.2024, 07:22, insgesamt 2-mal geändert.

Custom PC (2022) Intel i5-13600K with UHD 770 iGPU with latest driver, MSI z690 Tomahawk motherboard, 64GB Corsair DDR5 5200 ram, NVIDIA 2080 Super (8GB) with latest studio driver, 2TB Hynix P41 SSD, Windows 11 Pro 64 bit

Dell XPS 15 laptop (2017) 32GB ram, NVIDIA 1050 (4GB) with latest studio driver, Intel i7-7700HQ with Intel 630 iGPU (latest available driver), dual internal SSD (1TB; 1TB), Windows 10 64 bit

VEGAS Pro 19.651
VEGAS Pro 20.411
VEGAS Pro 21.208

Try the
VEGAS 4K "sample project" benchmark: https://forms.gle/ypyrrbUghEiaf2aC7
VEGAS Pro 20 "Ad" benchmark: https://forms.gle/eErJTR87K2bbJc4Q7

j-hopman schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:30 Uhr

I'm very impressed by this update so far, great work to the whole staff! This update and the new features, plus the great ad/announcement thing you did ( is making me feel really positive for the future of this software.

PIT schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:36 Uhr

I also cannot register my Vegas online.

daniel-rimon schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:37 Uhr

I didn't understand, I now have to wait half an hour until the software transcribes all the hour-long raw, just so I can extract a minute for Reels? Why not also allow the options from the old version together with the new one, that I can photograph only a pre-selected part... It just stuck with my work today...

AI speech to text

lan-mLMC schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:38 Uhr

I'm very impressed by this update so far, great work to the whole staff! This update and the new features, plus the great ad/announcement thing you did ( is making me feel really positive for the future of this software.

Actually, I'm curious whether the Shake effect in this video is created by third-party plug-ins or some open source add-ons. Because Vegas doesn't possess its own Shake effect.

Hope Vegas can introduce a built-in Shake OFX with edge wrapping.

VEGASDerek schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:38 Uhr

We are aware of a problem with the registration server and are working to get it working properly again.

Bryan-Chuechunklin schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:40 Uhr

We are aware of a problem with the registration server and are working to get it working properly again.

Hopefully soon. I have a project due today and cannot work or get paid until it is done.

fr0sty schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:46 Uhr

You can roll back to 208 if it takes too long and you must turn in your project. The download link for build 208 can be found here: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-where-can-i-download-vegas-pro-and-other-vegas-software--104782/

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

frmax schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:50 Uhr

.. but if you re-install build 208 now, it will not register (in this dark hours) 😉

I9900K, RTX 2080, 32GB RAM, 512Mb M2, 1TB SSD, VEGAS Pro 14-20 (Post), Magix ProX, HitfilmPro
AMD 5900, RTX 3090 TI, 64GB RAM, 1 TB M2 SSD, 4 TB HD, VP 21 Post

Monitor LG 32UN880; Camera Sony FDR-AX53; Photo Canon EOS, Samsung S22 Ultra

Yaadgar schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:50 Uhr

I am having issues with .MXF 10 bit 108050p files from Sony FS5 mark 2 they pixelate also when i add them onto timeline they load all 4 channels unlike previous version where had option to not load.mxf as multichannel ... slowed down my workflow wish didn't upgrade

fr0sty schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:57 Uhr

Right click on the preview window, make sure "adjust preview size and quality for optimal playback" isn't checked, and make sure your preview quality is set to preview (full) or better.

I'm sure there's an option to address the MXF issue, but I don't shoot on that format, so I'm not sure where it is.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

QuanAndMichelle schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 16:58 Uhr

I cannot register my Vegas online. I am posting this on the same PC that Vegas is installed in. So I have a active internet connection.

i'm haveing the same problem also i just email custom support about my issue a few mins ago

studiolynga schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 17:19 Uhr

It seems to work now!

Hamilton53 schrieb am 08.04.2024 um 17:28 Uhr

Version 300

My render speed for 3840x2800 60 FPS GoPro files dropped from 30+ fps to around 3 fps. About 1/10 the speed.

This is with an i9-14,900K CPU and RTX A2000 Pro Graphics card...

Note: Both renders were done on the exact same edit.

RogerS - Checking 1) Enable legacy AVC decoding and 2) Enable experimental HEVC decoding only increased the FPS to about 4.72.

SOLVED - Under preferences -> File I/O - My hardware decoder needed reselected. We're good now!

It's faster :-) 45+

 

Zuletzt geändert von Hamilton53 am 08.04.2024, 18:16, insgesamt 6-mal geändert.

Intel i9-14900K; NVIDIA RTX A2000 Pro (12GB); Kingston Fury DD5 (64GB); Samsung M.2 990 Pro (2TB), M.2 970 Evo (2TB)

... built by Digital Storm