AMD GPU acceleration does not work

bartpl wrote on 3/27/2019, 4:33 PM

Hi, I am trying to enable GPU acceleration for video editing and rendering but it seems it does not work. I have already watched all youtube with tutorials but it still does not work.

Options that I have already changed:
1. In Video Preview Preferences/ "Video" tab, under "GPU Acceleration of Video Processing" I have chosen "Advanced Micro Devices
2. In Video Preview Preferences/ "General" tab, I have enabled "Allow legacy GPU rendering".
3. In Video Preview Preferences/ "Preview device" tab, I have chosen "Windows Graphic Card" as a Device.

When customising a template before render, under "Encode mode" , I have only 2 options to chose: Intel QSV or Mainconcept HEVC.

On youtube tutorials people had an option there saying "Render using GPU if available". Why I don't have it?
Also, when I am chosing templates, there is (Intel QSV) in brackets next to each template. I have seen on youtube that some people had their graphic card there.

And last thing, I have seen people entering preferences while holding the SHIFT key and then they have "INTERNAL" tab, then they go to "Allow GPU Rendering" and they change it from FALSE to TRUE - I don't have this option either :(

So, when rendering, my CPU is often 100% utilisation (it fluctuate from time to time between 60-90% for longer time). GPU is between 2-10% only.
When playing preview, GPU utilisation is around 4-6% even when I have a lot of transitions and filters. Preview is lagging during transitions and CPU is not always 100%. I don't understand it, why CPU utilisation sometimes is 80% during transitions that are lagging.

Please does anybody know how to fix it?

MY SETUP:
Vegas Pro 16.0 (Build 248)
CPU: i7-5820k
GPU: ASUS AMD Radeon R9 390X Strix 8GB
RAM: 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance LPX
Motherboard: MSI X99A Gaming Pro Carbon
SSD1: 128GB M.2
SSD2: 525GB Crucial MX300 Sata3
OS: Windwos 10

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Eagle Six wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:19 PM

@bartpl when I install updates I do not uninstall the previous, I just close down Vegas Pro and install the new update exe.

vkmast wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:20 PM

No need to uninstall the previous build of your version VP 16. Just run the file and follow the instructions. Btw, I gave you a link earlier in my 2nd comment as well.

Eagle Six wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:22 PM

@Kinvermark are you able to render UHD using your R9 290 and MAGIX AVC/AAC (AMD VCE) templates?

Kinvermark wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:30 PM

Sorry, I should have updated my signature - I am using an RX 580 now, so yes.

Eagle Six wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:31 PM

Sorry, I should have updated my signature - I am using an RX 580 now, so yes.

Thank You @Kinvermark for the confirmation, I think the RX 580 has VCE 4.0 and that would certainly do the 4K.

Kinvermark wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:33 PM

I don't think any of the VCE profiles worked with the r9 290.

bartpl wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:35 PM

Mediainfo will display a long list of specifications. Post a screenshot of the report please.

I will do tomorrow as I turned off my PC already. I will definitely use proxy, thanks for the advice.

I can see that R390 and R390x are vce 2.0 so probably this is the reason I can't render 4K using GPU :(

Here's the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Coding_Engine

Can I ask you guys to tell me what's your GPU usage during preview? I still don't know if my preview is GPU accelerated or not as my GPU usage is only 4% during preview.

Eagle Six wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:35 PM

I don't think any of the VCE profiles worked with the r9 290.

That would be my guess!

Eagle Six wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:45 PM

Mediainfo will display a long list of specifications. Post a screenshot of the report please.

I will do tomorrow as I turned off my PC already. I will definitely use proxy, thanks for the advice.

I can see that R390 and R390x are vce 2.0 so probably this is the reason I can't render 4K using GPU :(

Here's the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Coding_Engine

Can I ask you guys to tell me what's your GPU usage during preview? I still don't know if my preview is GPU accelerated or not as my GPU usage is only 4% during preview.

@bartpl Thank You for finding this link for VCE that I had lost.

Mine is running about 10% with UHD events with no add-ons (preview quality Best/Full at full speed). If I place an OFX on the clip, such as 'Add Noise' then the usage jumps up to about 15% and the playback is slowed down (I'm not running proxies on this test). I think the more or different types of OFX you use, you may see more GPU percentage of use.

Eagle Six wrote on 3/28/2019, 6:50 PM

I don't think any of the VCE profiles worked with the r9 290.

@Kinvermark Looking at the link that @bartpl provided it appears that actually the R9 290 is using VCE 2.0 as the R9 390 and R9 390X and your RX 580 is using VCE 3.0. That pretty much clear up that issue. Now, if I can just remember this in the future, my pea size brain is not doing so great here lately!!

bartpl wrote on 3/28/2019, 7:05 PM

In terms of video preview, would I see any difference if I replace my r9 390X with RX580?

james-ollick wrote on 3/28/2019, 7:19 PM

In terms of video preview, would I see any difference if I replace my r9 390X with RX580?

When I play a clip with no FX I see my CPU and GPU both go to 7% so the preview may use both. You can see my specs in my signature.

Kinvermark wrote on 3/28/2019, 9:13 PM

@bartpl Not much difference. I went from r9 290 to rx580 and didn't see much difference in Vegas or any other program. I am using 2010 era CPU / / Mobo so YMMV.

But now I have VCE, more VRAM for certain operations, and multiple HDMI ports (what I really wanted.)

bartpl wrote on 3/29/2019, 1:54 PM

@Eagle Six I have tried to work with proxy and playback flies now! No lags even during transitions, thanks a lot.
Below is a snip from MediaInfo app. Video recorded with iphone, settings at 4K 60fps

When working with proxy, during preview CPU usage is around 12% and GPU usage 10%.

Eagle Six wrote on 3/29/2019, 3:35 PM

@bartpl If you are happy with the performance of using the Vegas Pro proxies and your variable frame rate iPhone footage doesn't cause any other problems for you, then you may want to just get back to enjoying video production.

If your iPhone variable frame rate footage does cause other problems or you just want to experiment with perhaps making more improvements by using an intermediate file, then you could try the Cineform codec. You can render a Cineform intermediate using Vegas Pro or you could try the free public version of DaVinci Resolve 15.3.

The Cineform render format does not come with Vegas Pro, so you first need to install it. Download the free GoPro Studio program and install it. You don need the program GoPro Studio, with the except when you install it, it will automatically install the Cineform codec which you do need.

After installing GoPro Studio, when you open Vegas Pro, the Cineform codec option will appear in the 'Video for Windows' render format section. Then select any of the 1080 templates. You will then need to change the template parameters by selecting 'Customize Template'. Change the 'Frame size' to 'Custom frame size'. Then change the change the width and height to match your iPhone source (3840 x 2160). Change the 'Frame rate' to '59.940 (Double NTSC )'. 'Field order' should be set for 'None (progressive scan)'. Click on 'Video format' and a list will appear. Select from the list 'Cineform codec'. Click on the 'Configure...' option. For 'Encode format' leave it 'YUV 4:2:2'. The 'Encoding quality' try 'Filmscan 1', then click 'OK'. Leave everything else as defaults and press 'OK'. Complete the render test and try that in a project with the preview quality first set to Best/Full. You may be able to get near full frame rate speed, and if so, you may like this better than using a proxy at preview quality 'Preview/Full'. If you cannot get a preview quality at normal speed better than 'Preview/Full', you may as well use the Vegas Proxy feature because it is running pretty smooth for you and you can always switch the preview quality to make color adjustments, etc.

BTW: The 'Encoding quality' I suggested above 'Filmscan 1' is way overkill as far as keeping the quality from your original source. I would think 'Medium' or 'High' would be quite adequate. The only reason I use 'Flimscan 1' is to achieve less compression (which I think runs smoother in Vegas Pro and my PC), but it makes for a larger file size.

Using DaVinci Resolve 15.3 to render intermediates, I like better, but there is a learning curve which may not be desirable just to render intermediates, unless for some reason Vegas Pro has problems.

If you do decide to use Vegas Pro to render intermediates with Cineform, there are some scripts files I have used to make Vegas Pro batch render and after they are setup, it's just a few clicks to render a bunch, and then sit back and wait for the renders to complete.