Length of project

Dashing Dave wrote on 2/4/2012, 7:10 AM
I am new to Vegas Pro 11 so please bear with me. My project runs for 1hr 05 mins but audio track volume runs to 2hrs 30mins. Hence a time line of 2hrs 30mins in observed. There seems to be no way to adjust actual project length or to remove the track volume audio after the 1hr 05mins. When it comes to rendering Vegas takes the length of project to be 2hrs 30mins. Please how does one indicate to Vegas where a project ends and that anything after should be removed. None of the delete envelope methods are working for me

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Chienworks wrote on 2/4/2012, 8:01 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by "audio track volume". Can you please try explaining or describing that in some other words?

If nothing else, you can set in & out points for a loop selection. At 0:00:00;00 press the i key to set the in point and at 1:05:00;00 (or wherever your project ends) press the o key to set the out point. A blue bar appears over the top of the timeline indicating the selected section. Now when you render make sure the "render loop region only" is selected.
rs170a wrote on 2/4/2012, 9:11 AM
I'm not using Pro 11 yet but am wondering if this is a bug as I use volume envelopes a lot and have never had this happen in any version of Vegas I've ever used.

Mike
vkmast wrote on 2/4/2012, 9:49 AM
Seems to me working the same way as before rendering the project length. I saw no trouble in VPro 11 in this (b425).
Arthur.S wrote on 2/4/2012, 10:13 AM
If I'm getting you right Dave, your audio is longer than your video, so you want to trim it to be the same length? Just place the cursor where you want to trim, push 'S'. Delete the unwanted portion. OR, drag the audio clip from the right hand side to where you want it to end.
rs170a wrote on 2/4/2012, 10:33 AM
As a follow up to Arthur's suggestions, go to the very end of the timeline and make sure there's not a sliver of something (audio or video) there.
If there is, delete it, re-save the project and render again..

Mike
Dashing Dave wrote on 2/4/2012, 11:18 AM
Chienworks. Thanks. This is a new one on me. I will give it a go. Trouble is Adobe you can stipulate exactly what is needed. Very helpful thank you
Dashing Dave wrote on 2/4/2012, 11:23 AM
Arthur,
I have tried all the usual splitting and dragging and envelopes but none of them will come into operation. It is though I am in a setting that will not let me highlight and delete. I have a feeling that unless I find this "glitch" it will continue to not accept the instruction.

Dashing Dave
Dashing Dave wrote on 2/4/2012, 11:33 AM
Again rs170a I have hunted the full length of the time line as far as it's end and not found any bits or pieces holding the process up.I have the Garry Kleiner's Sony Vegas 11 Made Simple as well as his Vegas Pro Companion and I agree with all the instruction within the Project but I can find nothing that deletes Time Only after the end of the project. If events are there they will be removed but just a "Time only" selection ene with envelope will not delete and it is not because a post ripple is needed. I've tried that too and nothing happens.

Thanks All you guys for your help

Dashing Dave
cybercom wrote on 2/4/2012, 12:06 PM
I don't know what you mean by a "time only" selection, but it sounds like you may have somehow stretched out the audio. Ungroup your audio and video events. Place your cursor at the end of your video track, click in a blank track then click just in your audio track to select only the audio and press the "s" key. Does your audio split at the cursor?

If so, select just the portion of the audio track to the right and press the del key. Regroup your tracks.

Or, if the above doesn't work, try going to the end of the audio track and dragging it back to the proper length, as mentioned above.

HTH,

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amendegw wrote on 2/4/2012, 12:31 PM
Let's try this...



...Jerry

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WillemT wrote on 2/4/2012, 12:31 PM
Any markers beyond 1hr 05 mins, meaning at 2hrs 30mins? Vegas VP11 will render up to the last marker, even with no video (and/or audio) on the timeline.

If any markers are placed beyong the required video end, for whatever reason, it is necessary to enter in and out points and render the loop region only.

Any volume envelope points after the end of the video (and audio) are ignored.

WIllem.
xberk wrote on 2/4/2012, 1:22 PM
Excellent point Willem ... It could be a marker ..

It's easy to determine the end of the project and how long the project actually is .. just press Ctrl+end .. this will take you to the end .. and Ctrl+home to the beginning .. I usually do this before rendering as I've often left something hanging out there on the timeline but off the screen that causes the render to go beyond where I thought it should end.

I assume the problem here was not finding the "end" of the project but finding out how to delete what ever was causing it to end at 2 hr 30 min instead of the desired 1 hr and 5 min..

A screen shot of the timeline after doing Ctrl+end would be helpful.

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larry-peter wrote on 2/4/2012, 2:31 PM
Since he mentions " track volume audio" could it be he has points applied to a volume envelope far down the timeline that weren't attached to media clips when he deleted them? If I remember correctly, those stray points will keep your timeline from zooming the way you would expect.
xberk wrote on 2/4/2012, 10:38 PM
If Jerry's solution above is not it ... then ..(by the way Jerry.. nice job..clean and clear ..) .. and it is not a marker hanging out there as Willem suggested ..

I don't know. This is a foggy problem. The OP says that his render was 2 hr 30min on a 1hr 05 min project ... I wonder if it was really rendering 2hr 30 min of timeline if there was nothing he could "delete" after 1 hr 05 min. I've rendered a bunch of black at the end of a timeline because I had a small sliver of video hangin out there .. but if there is really nothing hanging out there except some invisble "time only" .. I think the OP is simply seeing the track envelope going on after the project end. He's trying to delete the track envelope so that it ends when the project ends. So if his project was, at one time, 2 hr 30 min long, it would be possible that he sees that long of a timeline -- but if there is nothing past 1 hr 05 min to render, Vegas will only render the 1 hr 5 min. ..

So .. Dashing Dave .. did you actually render 2 hr 30 min ? In other words, does the rendered file have a time length of 2 hr 30 min - with nothing but black and silence after 1 hr and 5 min?

Paul

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Dashing Dave wrote on 2/5/2012, 1:43 AM
Thank you all of you. You have all been brilliant. I tried the i at the start and the o at the end of the project and rendered in accordance with Chienworks suggestion and it did it for me.

May I say that I have never been on a forum before (I am a newbie with regard to video editing so starting with Vegas Pro 11 has been a steep learning curve) but I am amazed how quickly and how thoroughly all you guys rallied round to help. You are all a credit. I will have no fears to come to the forum again when (I am sure that it will be WHEN rather than IF) I have any more problems.

Once again Thanks to you all.

Dashing Dave