My Nesting Projects Affair

Lou van Wijhe wrote on 4/16/2016, 6:53 AM
I started using nesting some Vegas releases ago when the program suffered from memory leaks which crashed my rendering. Someone suggested nesting my crippled project and although I didn't see the relation between memory leaks and nesting, it worked flawlessly. I still don't know what's going on under the hood but what-me-worry.

Since then, I resorted to nesting whenever I had rendering problems and it always saved the day. Sometimes, Vegas hanged in FX-laden projects (or didn't process effects without hitches) and then rendering using nesting always solved the problem.

Besides that, I often make long video travelogues, edit them in chapters and combine all chapters in a master project using nesting. Rendering then always runs like a train. What is important (also in complex projects anyway) is to give Vegas time to open the project and not do anything else in the meantime. Sometimes it seems that Vegas is not active but when you open Processes in the Task Manager you'll see there still is a lot of disk activity. Just wait till it's finished.

Just my 2 Euros.



cold ones wrote on 4/18/2016, 5:25 PM
I agree, Lou, especially about that under the hood stuff. I often have projects with 10-20 nested projects inside. One practice I've adopted is, before I open the master project, I drag & drop nested files into an empty timeline. That way, if their audio needs to be rendered, this task can be accomplished before they're called into the master project is opened. Master projects will try to render out nested files if needed, but sometimes it just gets stuck and hangs. Prepping the nested files ahead of time has really helped me.
VMP wrote on 4/18/2016, 6:07 PM
Nice to meet another Dutch person here Lou ;-).

Often when these render issues occur it is good to render all the audio tracks to a single track, solo that track, then try the render again.

Also disabling the project media window can help.
That is usually caused by a file which Vegas doesn't like.

Rory Cooper wrote on 4/19/2016, 2:38 AM

Nesting is a life saver in Vegas it simply opens so many doors for compositing.

1. For example nested veg as a Transition on the Ferrari
2. Nested veg for Boris red composite = Ribbon is a Red empty EVENT FX so nested for mask for ribbon and text
Also the reflection of the ribbon on the text so all composited in Vegas from the veg file

3. The final mix of 3 veg files used in 3 different ways = one final render comp because the clients always change their flipping minds

= the result.

4. Another way nested veggies can help you in an amazing way is in layered 3D track motion.

If you have 3d motion tracks or your composite contains layered 3d tracks then you simply layer your nested vegies in 3d composite as normal
So in practical terms you create your 3D motion save this as a veg file but delete the media keep the tracks which are now empty and then another veg without the 3 d track
In you main composite use the saved veg as a 3D MOTION TRACK. And the veg as the media…so in a sense you roll out your 3D track motion in your final composite.
Tom Pauncz wrote on 4/19/2016, 1:37 PM
Link doesn't appear to work here, Rory..
Rory Cooper wrote on 4/20/2016, 1:26 AM
thanks Tom.
vkmast wrote on 4/20/2016, 1:53 AM
Would this work?