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rraud wrote on 1/7/2022, 4:11 PM

AFAIK, no iZotope audio plug-in are included with Vegas. If you are referring to the Elements plug-ins that are included with Sound Forge (when purchased singularly), third-party plug-ins are not included in the Vegas/Sound Forge deal. Unfortunately this is not clearly stated by Magix. I do not know if iZotope still has there annual holiday deals going on.

Sorry for any disappointments,
rraud, Sound Forge forum moderator

vkmast wrote on 1/7/2022, 4:27 PM

@rraud about for 4 days still.

Photo_G wrote on 1/7/2022, 4:55 PM

Some great deals, including second-hand, can be had at KVR. FWIW, there were even some Ozone 9 Elements licenses being offered for free recently in the "Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc." forum.

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=43

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crown2020 wrote on 1/7/2022, 5:33 PM

@rraud, "AFAIK, no iZotope audio plug-in are included with Vegas"

No. I was referring to plug in's that I HEAR at one time could be installed in Vegas AFTER the purchase of or a suite that contained say RX7. I THINK almost 2 years ago that stripped there software of that compatability?

crown2020 wrote on 1/7/2022, 5:34 PM

@Photo_G, I signed up for the site so I could do a simple "search". Found no RX7 or the like stuff. I did find advertisements to packages one can already find on the iZotope directly. :(

crown2020 wrote on 1/7/2022, 5:36 PM

@vkmast, "@rraud about for 4 days still."

I do not think this software allows plugs to run in Vegas. Am I correct?

Dexcon wrote on 1/7/2022, 5:50 PM

All my latest and recent version iZotope plugins appear as expected in Vegas Pro 19: RX9 plugins (7 and 8 as well), Ozone 8 and 9, Neutron 3 and Nectar 2. They don't automatically install in Vegas Pro (or Sound Forge Pro for that matter) - they have to be loaded in Vegas Pro via Options/Preferences/VST Effects (tab) by using one of the Alternate VST folders to drill down to the folder where the iZotope vst plugins are stored (usually C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg and/or C:\Program Files\Steinberg).

With RX, only the vst plugins will install into Vegas Pro - I cannot recall a time when the full RX program itself was accessible in Vegas Pro, and that's from RX4 onwards.

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Illusion wrote on 1/7/2022, 5:55 PM

@vkmast, "@rraud about for 4 days still."

I do not think this software allows plugs to run in Vegas. Am I correct?

My RX8 Standard plugins work just fine within Vegas 19. As @Dexcon said, you have to configure Vegas to look for them.

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crown2020 wrote on 1/7/2022, 6:02 PM

@Dexcon, Thanks for the reply. I was aware that limited plugin's use to work, (Vegas Pro), in older versions of RX and some features you had to use their software for. I'm interested in knowing what plugin's would work in Vegas Pro in the RX9 Standard or Advanced flavors. Currently, I am trying out there 7 day trial for their subscription service. I have a feeling that they are not including, in that monthly fee, plugin's that are probably in RX9 standard or Advanced, (should one buy one of these outright).

crown2020 wrote on 1/7/2022, 6:07 PM

@Illusion Hey thanks for the screen shot. It helps. Do you know what plugin's will NOT install and must be used within there program, outside of Vegas? I will investigate @Dexcon's method that allows Vegas to see the plugin's. I am not sure if they will work since at present, I am using the free 7 day trial of their subscription, (monthly).

Dexcon wrote on 1/7/2022, 6:10 PM

@crown2020  ... Happily, iZotope's RX9 comparison page has that information - https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/features.html#comp

The features marked with one asterisk are the plugins that appear in Vegas Pro. Unfortunately, I don't know if there are differences with the subscription options.

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Illusion wrote on 1/7/2022, 7:09 PM

@crown2020, as @Dexcon said, those marked with an * show up in Vegas. One thing that I use very often in RX8 Standard is Spectral Repair which is not available as a plugin for obvious reasons, it needs the graphical interface to work. De-click plugin is probably the one I use the most in Vegas.

From the package I bought some time ago, I also have these iZotope plugins. Although de-click is lightweight and can be abused at the event level, something like Neutron or Ozone should not be abused, best to use it at track or bus level. Trying to get Neutron on 20 different events will make Vegas sluggish.

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Illusion wrote on 1/7/2022, 7:13 PM

@crown2020, my RX8 Standard plugins installed in this folder by default without any intervention from me.

In Vegas, I simply had to add it in the VST path to see them as Audio FX

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Photo_G wrote on 1/7/2022, 7:13 PM

@Photo_G, I signed up for the site so I could do a simple "search". Found no RX7 or the like stuff. I did find advertisements to packages one can already find on the iZotope directly. :(

Yeah, you kinda have to keep an eye out there for when deals pop up.

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crown2020 wrote on 1/7/2022, 7:28 PM

@Dexcon, Since you own several of these RX series versions as well as other iZotop products, is there anything else I should be considering, other than the RX stuff, for audio restoration in post? I looked on there site. The main software they offer, for what I do, seems to be RX. All thoughts welcome.

Dexcon wrote on 1/7/2022, 8:32 PM

@crown2020  ...

... is there anything else I should be considering, other than the RX stuff, for audio restoration in post?

It very much depends on what type of audio recordings you are using. If its just location sound, then RX may be all you need. If you're doing voice over, then Neutron 3 could be helpful because it has a wide range of adjustable presets for dialogue. And its AI mix assistant is excellent for bringing new life to poor music recordings (such on location via your camera's internal or add-on microphone)) and/or music recorded long ago. There's a 10 days trial, but like RX, you'd need to look at the comparison page to see which version is best for you - https://www.izotope.com/en/products/neutron.html

Neutron 3 is a plugin that is also accessible within the main RX standalone program.

If you're really into recording, mixing and mastering your own music, Ozone 9 could be useful - https://www.izotope.com/en/products/ozone.html It also has a 10 days trial and, again, look at the comparison page to see the differences between the 3 versions.

Like @Illusion said above, using iZotope plugins can definitely make Vegas Pro sluggish. For some years now, I've taken the approach of exporting camera or other audio to a .wav file, importing that into RX and then working on the audio, say with Neutron's plugin, in RX, then exporting to .wav and drop that into Vegas Pro. Lot's of people don't particuarly like the turnaround approach but for me, it's fine. And .wav files are relatively small in size.

BTW, iZotope have 4 free plugins - https://www.izotope.com/en/products/free-audio-plug-ins.html

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janndk wrote on 1/8/2022, 1:34 AM

AFAIK, no iZotope audio plug-in are included with Vegas. If you are referring to the Elements plug-ins that are included with Sound Forge (when purchased singularly), third-party plug-ins are not included in the Vegas/Sound Forge deal. Unfortunately this is not clearly stated by Magix. I do not know if iZotope still has there annual holiday deals going on.

Sorry for any disappointments,
rraud, Sound Forge forum moderator

According to Vegas website, iZotope Ozone (Elements) is included.

rraud wrote on 1/8/2022, 10:06 AM

The above are stock images for the 'Audio Studio' app. Unless something has changed very recently and despite that, the third-party plug-ins are NOT included in the Vegas deal. I have discussed this previously with my contacts at Magix customer service and they agree it is confusing, but 'their' dept cannot change it. You can contact Magix directly for a definitive answer

is there anything else I should be considering, other than the RX stuff, for audio restoration in post?

Steinberg's SpectralLayers Pro is awesome. It is similar to RX Advanced, which has more 'auto' functions, but SLP costs less than half of the $1k RX Adv. SLP has somewhat of a learning curve for manually editing a Spectrograph, but once learned, you can fix issues that where previously impossible. Experience with Photoshop or other advanced photo editing apps can lessen the curve though. SLP does have many auto functions though,for instance the AI stem extract can create stem tracks from music and other previously 'mixed' material (aka, unbake the cake).
I am not easily impressed, but SLP blew me away. SLP is included with the Sound Forge Pro Suite version, which alone is worth the cost of a Sound Forge upgrade IMO. See the SF version comparison webpage.

btw, SpectralLayers was originally published by SCS (Sony) along with Sound Forge, Vegas and Acid. SpectralLayers developer is the same person and also the moderator of Steinberg's SpectralLayers users forum, so users may communicate directly.

janndk wrote on 1/8/2022, 10:33 AM

The above are stock images for the 'Audio Studio' app...

They are not "stock images", but screen dumps from the current Vegas Pro 19 product presentation website.
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/int/vegas-pro/

Photo_G wrote on 1/8/2022, 11:45 AM

I have a standalone license for SOUND FORGE Audio Studio 15 and it shows that iZotope Ozone 9 Elements is installed, but this isn't really useful for audio restoration - at least not like Izotope RX (Elements) would be.

Photo_G wrote on 1/8/2022, 11:53 AM

@Photo_G, I signed up for the site so I could do a simple "search". Found no RX7 or the like stuff. I did find advertisements to packages one can already find on the iZotope directly. :(

Yeah, you kinda have to keep an eye out there for when deals pop up.

@crown2020 Another option on KVR is make a WTB post (wanted to buy). Sometimes you can get offers over PM. I've found it to be a great way to find something specific that's not currently listed (and it looks like someone recently scored an RX 9 Standard offer this way).

Edit: I see a listing out there for iZotope Nectar Elements today, which provides compression, de-essing, tonal and subtractive EQ, pitch correction, and reverb. It's listed for $5.00 here:

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=575421

...and another listing with RX6 Elements for $5.00 here (maybe they have an unregistered license that you could get today, rather than waiting for a license transfer from Izotope):

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=575166

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janndk wrote on 1/8/2022, 12:09 PM

@Photo_G, I signed up for the site so I could do a simple "search". Found no RX7 or the like stuff. I did find advertisements to packages one can already find on the iZotope directly. :(

Yeah, you kinda have to keep an eye out there for when deals pop up.

@crown2020 Another option on KVR is make a WTB post (wanted to buy). Sometimes you can get offers over PM this way. I've found it to be a great way to find something specific that's not currently listed.

Newest RX is RX9. Seems that at the moment you can get "all four Elements plug-ins" for $49

https://www.izotope.com/en/products.html
 

Photo_G wrote on 1/8/2022, 12:18 PM

@crown2020 @janndk Thanks! An additional discount on this holiday bundle offer can be had from JRR Shop. If you use the code GROUP at checkout, the price goes down to $41.16.

https://www.jrrshop.com/izotope-holiday-bundle-gold

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crown2020 wrote on 1/8/2022, 6:44 PM

I want to thank everyone that has posted information to help myself and others locate good iZotope plugin's. Or stand alone products for that matter. I do audio restoration. I am pretty sure to use the spectral denoise and spectral repair tools I will need, at minimum, an RX STANDARD version. Not the bottom of the barrel "Elements". As far as I can tell, "RX Elements" contains only a "Spectrogram View". Nothing to actually do Spectral denoise or repair.

Again, thanks to those who have offered me options. I like options. @rraud, I will check out "Steinberg's SpectralLayers Pro". I will have to say, the trial of RX Spectral Denoise by iZotope is pretty darn good at removing noise. Granted, it's noise over vocals only. No music. I have no reason to believe, at this point anyways, that it will let me down should music be thrown into a mix of noise.

So guys, since I have cleaned up the noise and I am left with audio vocals only from the 50's or 60's, any ideas how I could make the vocals sound better? Perhaps a bit more polished? What iZotope product would be recommended for this?

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