Picture in Picture missing adjustment handles?

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 12:12 AM

I was hoping someone could help me with something I baffled about yet, is probably easy to fix.

When I watch tutorial videos of someone using the Picture in Picture effect for motion tracking, the video shows the person using handles around the PiP area, (e.g. around the Titles & Text) to they can freely move, size, rotate, the PiP Titles & Text area. When I use the PiP effect however, I see no handles at all. The only way I can move the PiP window is using the Video Event FX dialog box and changing values there. I want to be able to move, resize, rotate, etc. using the PiP handles directly, rather than use the controls within the dialogue box.

I hope I've explained this clearly enough. I'm using Vegas pro 19.

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walter-i. wrote on 11/26/2021, 2:21 AM

This works perfectly for me.

Try resetting Vegas Pro - please follow the instructions exactly - the cache must also be cleared.https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/faq-how-can-i-reset-vegas-pro-to-default-settings--104646/

Jack S wrote on 11/26/2021, 5:39 AM

@stevefoobar2 You have to select the PIP FX tab in the plug-in chain. The handles will then appear.

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 2:15 PM

Walter, I tried reset and it didn't change anything. Jack, I was already clicking on the effect tab.

Then I went back and watched the tutorial video much more closely and noticed the issue. I was using a different version of the Picture in Picture effect. The one with handles and that the video tutorial was using is named "Picture in Picture". The one without handles that I was using inadvertently is named "Picture-in-Picture".

Why the heck would there be two versions of the same effect that are so different, functionally and especially with such a subtle name difference between them?

Thanks for your help!

walter-i. wrote on 11/26/2021, 3:15 PM

@stevefoobar2
I have a German installation - I can't find two picture-in-picture effects.
Maybe someone with an English installation can check if this is the case everywhere.

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 3:20 PM

Very interesting and very strange!

Former user wrote on 11/26/2021, 3:52 PM

I only have one, even if i look under the fx button on the event

Former user wrote on 11/26/2021, 4:04 PM

Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium is called Picture-in-Picture tho, there's no handles unless you go to Size/Position?rotation,

I know it's a different program but could it get mixed up with Vegas?

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 4:10 PM

OK, now I see what's going on. I also have just one Picture in Picture for the Vegas included effects. I just noticed though that I have a Third Party (NewBlue Elements) Picture-in-Picture effect as well. This is what caused my initial confusion. OK, problem and mystery solved. As an aside, I just also noticed you can right-click and rename your effects. Very good to know to avoid confusion later.

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 4:10 PM

Thanks for the help and clarification everyone.

Former user wrote on 11/26/2021, 4:22 PM

👍 I have NewBlue Elements Overlay, that must be different to yours

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 4:28 PM

That seems strange but I suppose that's possible. I can't really keep track of all the effects that get bundled with various Vegas Movie Studio and Pro versions I've had over the years. It gets rather confusing. :)

Former user wrote on 11/26/2021, 4:34 PM

Yeah, i found two more Vegas Cookie cutter & Newblue Reflection called Picture in Picture,

i wonder how many more there is 🤣🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣

vkmast wrote on 11/26/2021, 5:01 PM

@stevefoobar2 wrote

As an aside, I just also noticed you can right-click and rename your effects.

Please read here (to perhaps be more confused 🙃?).

stevefoobar2 wrote on 11/26/2021, 5:22 PM

Crazy!